first start out normal:e4,e5,nf3,nc6-alright, heres the start offried liver-bc5,now if your opponent plays nf6,play ng5.if your opponent plays d5(which they probably would) you play exd5, nxd5, then play nxf7.The king will take it(i hope)kxf7.THe rest is qf3+ ke6 nc3 nb4(dont worry) d4 nxc2+ kd1 nxa1 bxd5+ and then kd6.Now you can probably continue on with the attack and probably win.
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heres how to DEFEND it.after ng5, play d5, when white takes exd5, play na5.They may play bb5+, respond with c6-then you're good to go.
WARNING:DO NOT USE ON PROS OR ANYONE THAT HAS A RATING HIGHER THAN 1100.THEY PROBABLY KNOW THIS.
I used to be a big fan of this opening after reading Eric Schiller's First Chess Openings. I've improved quite a bit then, but I do thank Schiller for giving me a nice headstart in chess openings. I had all the opening lines connected with the Fried Liver attack memorised (as far as was presented in the Appendixes of his book).
After the Fried Liver, I wanted to find an opening that was unique and dynamic, but still possessed clear potential. I went with the Bird opening, named after Henry Bird- 1.f4. I played it quite often and still play it occasionally in one minute games on Live Chess.
After getting more chess books and playing through some of the best chess games in history in these books (with annotations), I decided that 1. e4 and 1. d4 are played so often for a reason. Now, I always start my games with 1. e4, and I've had quite a bit of luck with it.
check2008 wrote:
I used to be a big fan of this opening after reading Eric Schiller's First Chess Openings. I've improved quite a bit then, but I do thank Schiller for giving me a nice headstart in chess openings. I had all the opening lines connected with the Fried Liver attack memorised (as far as was presented in the Appendixes of his book).
After the Fried Liver, I wanted to find an opening that was unique and dynamic, but still possessed clear potential. I went with the Bird opening, named after Henry Bird- 1.f4. I played it quite often and still play it occasionally in one minute games on Live Chess.
After getting more chess books and playing through some of the best chess games in history in these books (with annotations), I decided that 1. e4 and 1. d4 are played so often for a reason. Now, I always start my games with 1. e4, and I've had quite a bit of luck with it.
me too i used it every time i was white when i was a kid.now i sometimes olay it
Check out Game 9 on the US championship. GM Nakamura vs. GM Friedel
Looks familiar? Enjoy.
If White can get to 4. Ng5, there are excellent winning chances, even at the master level (check the Game Explorer). At non-master levels, it's probably even stronger. I'd play 4. Ng5 as soon as the Two Knights Defense is played.
Wrong, Vandarringa... the pawn sac Black makes with ...Na5 and ...c6 is incredibly dangerous for White to meet at below-master level.
I have a huge plus score with Black in this line.
Nxd5 is perfectly fine. The game a few posts earlier is simply played horribly for black. Here's what a game with Nxd5 should look like:
I'll make the game later I haven't got time at the moment. Sorry.
...Nxd5 is very bad after White follows up with d4, rather than the weaker Nxf7.
benedictus wrote:
Nxd5 is perfectly fine. The game a few posts earlier is simply played horribly for black. Here's what a game with Nxd5 should look like:
I'll make the game later I haven't got time at the moment. Sorry.
I doubt this since my data base tells me white scores 81
% after Nxd5 6 Nxf7 and 83% after 6 d4 ! This line looks losing for black
I agree Reb, this line is not as simple as it looks, but if you choose 5...Nxd5
White plays 6.Nxf7 Kxf7
and the white has 7.Qf3+ or 7.d4 (winning)
5...Nxd5 is not an option. Look at the game I posted from GM Nakamura -GM Friedel that is the way to stop the fried liver. (up to move 8.Bd3)
mdnssmstr7777 wrote:
WARNING:DO NOT USE ON PROS OR ANYONE THAT HAS A RATING HIGHER THAN 1100.THEY PROBABLY KNOW THIS.
Excuse me? I can crush 1700's with this opening. It's certainly not just some sort of trick where there is a simple refutation.
It would appear the correct way to respond is Na5 rather than Nxd5. That leads to pretty interesting games. There's a new chess.com video out (yesterdays, I believe) which goes into the 8. Bd3 lines (usually shunned, up until now!) which you can find here:
http://www.chess.com/video/player/trend-breaking-novelties-italian-game
2nd half of the video.
nice.though pros do know this opening.the only differace is that some high rated people suck.they SHOULD know this opening
marvellosity wrote:
...Nxd5 is very bad after White follows up with d4, rather than the weaker Nxf7.
Nxf7 is not weaker.Its the main line of Fried Liver
For Nxd5 I have so far only gotten a decent analysis for Nxd5 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qf3+. After this, black ends up fine if he is careful. Don't trust the database on this one. This attack is usually used in blitz games in which it is easy for black to make a mistake and gets completely ruined. In a longer game, however, if black is careful he ends up with an advantage.
I have not yet analyzed d4 instead of Qf3+. I will come back with something on that later.
Benedictus, 9.Qe4 is a stronger move, after 9...c6 10.a3 Na6 11.0-0 Black is facing a lot of problems with d4 or f4 coming. Practically very hard to defend unless you're a computer.
To mdnss above: Nxf7 is the only line of the Fried Liver because it is the Fried Liver, duh.
However, theory recommends 6.d4 as a stronger move than 6.Nxf7.
What if after 11. O-O black plays 11... Be7 12. d4 Bf6 I repeat myself: If black is careful he will get through with the final advantage. That's why computers and strong players in long games get through with the final advantage. I think the Fried Liver is refuted, but it's very hard to defend against. If both sides play the best moves, black will win, but most human opponents will screw up sooner or later.
benedictus wrote:
What if after 11. O-O black plays 11... Be7 12. d4 Bf6
Sorry about that inaccurate analysis. I'm surprised that no one figured out what's wrong with it before I did. White simply plays 13. f4 leading to equal material and a very clear positional advantage for white. Anyway, I now think the best move is 11... b5. If you think this doesn't work, please let me know.
ok. i know some of you guyz already know fried liver, but to those who dont, its an awesome starter opening that rocks if you use it correctly.