How to play against the french and king's gambit?
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How to play against french and king's gambit?
Easy solution for you. Learn the French as Black. It’ll help you to play it as White and White can’t play the King’s Gambit against the French. Genius maneuver.
What Ethan said is pretty smart. For the French, I recommend d4, Nc3, and e5- (the Steinitz or the Winawer, depending on if your opponent plays Nf6 or Bb4). Against the King’s Gambit, I would cut down on study time and play the French.
crush French: (Nc3 lines)
https://youtu.be/6yKDbJdK398?si=Q_V2bjQUUI4JEpqn
Kings Gambit, there's a lot of lines, but in general d5 counterattack gives pretty playable position. ie e4 e5 f4 d5. If you want to try to refute it, then you might look at e4 e5 f4 exf4 Nf3 g5 lines.
I've NEVER been able to win against the french consistently until i started playing the alapin diemer gambit
Black runs away from attempts at playing the Monte carlo screaming because he's terrified of an open tactical game, but walks into one in the ADG. I was already pleased when I got to 44:48 stats with it which is close to = where I've been as low as 10% with WHATEVER i tried in my 1400s, and even happier now that I'm 45:48 and improving WITHOUT booking up. The same formation DEVASTATES carokann players as i found out accidentally and followed my winning stats in the mieses gambit.
The "best" reply to kings gambit, statistically 1600-2000 is to counter gambit with the falkbeer.
That's a challenge to face without booking up, and the super rare ...Be7 line gets on my nerves too for trapping my rook that I tried to open my f file for
The "reversed falkbeer" is also strong against "reversed King's gambit" rousseau and probably other ...f5 lines like jaenish schliemann.
Back to kings gambit...
The CUNNINGham... appropriate name
Fisher CLAIMED he refuted KG, but ...d6 doesn't bother me, unless it's the 2...d6 deferred Fisher, maybe. Gambit eers hate it when you won't take our gift wrapped pawns
Looking at the stats, white does better, but I'm bad at positional.
Playing the symmetrical with 2...f5 doesn't have winning stats either, but not knowing what to do against THAT possibly the ONLY time i faced it triggered a meltdown on the bus for me in a hideous middle game.
Hope something here helps. If you DO play the falkbeer, you BETTER be an attacker. It's very double edged. I Don't recommend you play it like THIS though
I've had good results against that line claiming the tempo with development on the queen. My results have gone down against the falkbeer as no ones been playing that line lately and I haven't studied it.
as I WANT to switch to 1...e5 from the scandinavian and intend to play the falkbeer myself, I'm taking this opportunity to take a break from the mind numbing 700+ lines of theory (far from even STARTING my repertoire as i'm not even half way through the rousseau gambit luccini variation) and looking into the falkbeer. there's a couple lines that DEVASTATE white by move #7! I hope to have starter theory for it I'll share here in a bit
OH THE CARNAGE! I'm working on the ...c6 sideline and there are some mating net trap lines branching from only move #7 which is where I'm ending the study as the theory is getting long, but there's a lot of transposition too, and it looks like it might be easy to play, once you learn the basics. i'm finished with MOST of the theory, but have a few 6th ply branches to do and finish some 7th ply ones.
gik-tally wrote:
as I WANT to switch to 1...e5 from the scandinavian and intend to play the falkbeer myself, I'm taking this opportunity to take a break from the mind numbing 700+ lines of theory (far from even STARTING my repertoire as i'm not even half way through the rousseau gambit luccini variation) and looking into the falkbeer. there's a couple lines that DEVASTATE white by move #7! I hope to have starter theory for it I'll share here in a bit
Why would you switch from scandi to 1. ... e5? If you want some gambits, Blackburne-Kloosterboer is alright I guess (albeit, you dont get much from that pawn aside from a development lead...) Or if you are going for the much more aggressive modern variation, which from what I have seen, you much prefer, there are multiple options, most notably the Kadas gambit (straight up UNHINGED. Only gambit I have ever seen that sacrifices 3 pawns, and is a bit dubious, but has a weirdly high win rate with black having 60% in some of the mainlines!), Icelandic gambit, Scandinavian gambit, Geschev gambit (although, Geschev gambit isnt quite as bombastic as the others I have listed)
Then again, Im a goofy 850 elo who isnt really the gambiteer type of player like you, so I have no idea if you would like these or if you think they are garbage.
The scandinavian isn't garbage, it's just not my style. as a king's gambiteer/3x BDG lover, pushing ...f5 to get a semi open f file is my kind of "defense" (ruthless attack in accepted gambits!) even if none of them have KG style Nf6/Bc5/Bxf2+ tactics
i've looked into the kloosterboer and it doesn't have the best stats. I have winning stats in the scandinavian, but can't abide 2.e5. NOPE! the ONLY way to prevent that is 1..e5. I'm a knight to f specialist. I've had it with that being prevented, the scandinavian ISN'T a gambit, even in the ACTUAL scandinavian gambit (why I looked into the kloosterboer) and I can't stand 3.d4 either.
I'm looking for TACTICAL play and don't get ANY, unless an opponent blunders in the scandinavian. I hate 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nxd5 Qxd5 too. I don't like my queen being chased AT ALL, unless i'm bringing her into battle with re-enforcements... that's why.
playing the toothless skankanavian triggers my PTSD because it's all position and no tactics. it, and the stonewall are why I quit chess a decade ago and for a couple years did nothing but tactics puzzles because that's WHY I play chess to begin with. I have bad positional judgement often and am unable to even learn a simple pawn ending from FOUR different books that might as well be in chinese, which i actually understand better!
that reminds me, I should try to find a pawn ending TRAINER so I can drill it again like I did with FICS (scheduled only!!!) tutorial. i had it learned, but because i couldn't drill it repeatedly, when i faced a pawn ending a month later, i'd forgotten everything and am back to losing pawn endings. that's another good reason for playing gambits. pawn endings don't matter if the game's over in the middlegame, and 14% of my wins are in less than 20 moves. i noticed i win a lot of games in 23, like that's my magic number.
OK... chess.com has a pawn ending trainer, but its so rare in my games, its not worth the effort when getting a 1.e5 e5 repertoire is a decades long priority.
gik-tally wrote:
The scandinavian isn't garbage, it's just not my style. as a king's gambiteer/3x BDG lover, pushing ...f5 to get a semi open f file is my kind of "defense" (ruthless attack in accepted gambits!) even if none of them have KG style Nf6/Bc5/Bxf2+ tactics
i've looked into the kloosterboer and it doesn't have the best stats. I have winning stats in the scandinavian, but can't abide 2.e5. NOPE! the ONLY way to prevent that is 1..e5. I'm a knight to f specialist. I've had it with that being prevented, the scandinavian ISN'T a gambit, even in the ACTUAL scandinavian gambit (why I looked into the kloosterboer) and I can't stand 3.d4 either.
I'm looking for TACTICAL play and don't get ANY, unless an opponent blunders in the scandinavian. I hate 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nxd5 Qxd5 too. I don't like my queen being chased AT ALL, unless i'm bringing her into battle with re-enforcements... that's why.
playing the toothless skankanavian triggers my PTSD because it's all position and no tactics. it, and the stonewall are why I quit chess a decade ago and for a couple years did nothing but tactics puzzles because that's WHY I play chess to begin with. I have bad positional judgement often and am unable to even learn a simple pawn ending from FOUR different books that might as well be in chinese, which i actually understand better!
that reminds me, I should try to find a pawn ending TRAINER so I can drill it again like I did with FICS (scheduled only!!!) tutorial. i had it learned, but because i couldn't drill it repeatedly, when i faced a pawn ending a month later, i'd forgotten everything and am back to losing pawn endings. that's another good reason for playing gambits. pawn endings don't matter if the game's over in the middlegame, and 14% of my wins are in less than 20 moves. i noticed i win a lot of games in 23, like that's my magic number.
OK... chess.com has a pawn ending trainer, but its so rare in my games, its not worth the effort when getting a 1.e5 e5 repertoire is a decades long priority.
Ok!
Daddy_Chillimao wrote:
French exchange ezz done
As a former french defense player, you just gave me PTSD. So symmetrical... so... so... BORING! 🤮
And yet, ALL my other openings for black have an exchange variation. Ain't that ironic?
Oct 15, 2023
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CaroKannEnjoyer02 написал:
Daddy_Chillimao wrote:
French exchange ezz done
And yet, ALL my other openings for black have an exchange variation. Ain't that ironic?
all exchanges are fun. even french defence
if i had to rate them tho, it would be like that:
4. french
3. scandi
2. caro kann
1. nimzowitsch
lassus_dinnao wrote:
CaroKannEnjoyer02 написал:
Daddy_Chillimao wrote:
French exchange ezz done
And yet, ALL my other openings for black have an exchange variation. Ain't that ironic?
all exchanges are fun. even french defence
if i had to rate them tho, it would be like that:
4. french
3. scandi
2. caro kann
1. nimzowitsch
You forgot slav exchange, or are these only against 1. e4?
Oct 15, 2023
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only e4. if against d4 then we have not only slav exchange but also QGD exchange and grunfeld exchange
Oct 16, 2023
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lassus_dinnao wrote:
french:
King's gambit
What an absurd joke!
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5?! exd5!!
In my last 70 or so games on the Black side of this over the board, I have lost 3 times, and all 3 were Game in 60 minutes or shorter. A few more wins than draws, like maybe 35 to 40 wins and 25 to 30 draws.
Oct 16, 2023
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ThrillerFan написал:
lassus_dinnao wrote:
french:
King's gambit
What an absurd joke!
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5?! exd5!!
In my last 70 or so games on the Black side of this over the board, I have lost 3 times, and all 3 were Game in 60 minutes or shorter. A few more wins than draws, like maybe 35 to 40 wins and 25 to 30 draws.
That's amazing. How do you play the exchange?