Is 1.f4 a playable opening?

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Bongoman2406

Even though 1.f4 is given a bunch of bad press, I feel that it is completely playable in tournament games. On 1...e5, white can transpose to a king's gambit, and in the case of 1... d5, 2.Nf3 c5 3.e3 Nc6 Bb5, intending Bxc6 to secure e5. The last reason is why Henry Bird plays 1.f4. After all these lines and facts, I feel 1.f4 is completely playable. What do you think?

penandpaper0089

Sure it's playable. I know a guy that went 7-0 in a tournament playing f4.

Yigor

Sure that it's playable. In the case of From's gambit 1...e5 the accepted variation 2. fxe5 is better than the transposition to KG. wink.png

Boyangzhao

Of course, I play it all the time in unofficial games.

Bongoman2406
Yigor wrote:

Sure that it's playable. In the case of From's gambit 1...e5 the accepted variation 2. fxe5 is better than the transposition to KG.

I'd rather attack than defend

TheAuthority
Bongoman2406 wrote:

a bunch of bad press

No such thing as bad press. Play f4 if you want. 

thegreat_patzer

yes.  playable but aggressive.

why do patzers care about the prestige of an opening? 

Bongoman2406

Says who?

In the end, white has the edge

The beginning of a game by Henry Bird (Playing white)

Cali_boy613
pfren wrote:

It's a bad opening, suitable only for patzers:

 

 

One may argue that white had no advantage out of the opening, but so what? The purpose of the game is not getting an advantage out of the opening!

Sorry for my possible ignorance, but are you being sarcastic? Cause you called it a bad opening then showed the best player in the world, some say of all time, using this opening against another super GM and winning...

AnimeDegenerate
Cali_boy613 wrote:
pfren wrote:

It's a bad opening, suitable only for patzers:

 

 

One may argue that white had no advantage out of the opening, but so what? The purpose of the game is not getting an advantage out of the opening!

Sorry for my possible ignorance, but are you being sarcastic? Cause you called it a bad opening then showed the best player in the world, some say of all time, using this opening against another super GM and winning...

He's being sarcastic.

poucin
Cali_boy613 a écrit :
pfren wrote:

It's a bad opening, suitable only for patzers:

 

 

One may argue that white had no advantage out of the opening, but so what? The purpose of the game is not getting an advantage out of the opening!

Sorry for my possible ignorance, but are you being sarcastic? Cause you called it a bad opening then showed the best player in the world, some say of all time, using this opening against another super GM and winning...

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stanhope13

Bird,s Opening Google it.

Cali_boy613
I figured he was, but there's sooooooo much weird sarcasm on these forums (yigor is probably the most blatant example) I just don't really know anymore.

By the way, if your reading this yigor, I'dont mean this in a negative way. You seem like a pretty nice guy
Yigor
Cali_boy613 wrote:
I figured he was, but there's sooooooo much weird sarcasm on these forums (yigor is probably the most blatant example) I just don't really know anymore.

By the way, if your reading this yigor, I'dont mean this in a negative way. You seem like a pretty nice guy

 

No problem, thanks for the compliment. wink.png

Amplepawn

The eagle snatches the fish.Money Mouth

ArtNJ

It is a little hard for me to understand why black wins more than white in this opening. https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=2&n=67&ms=f4&ns=67.  Maybe its because the white player often plays it as a lark, I dunno.  But it certainly makes me cautious about adopting the opening.  

namishtheawesome

f4 is a good move!! 1st of all, it leads to a comfy trade and the WORLD CHESS CHAMPION played it.

I know about fools mate:

but only begginers follow that trap

because seriously-why play g4?

you would rather play g3...

this is not really a game

bradct

1. f4 is playable, but there is a reason why black has a higher winning percentage against it than 1. d4 or 1. e4. Moving the f-pawn that early does create positional weak spots along the g1-a7 diagonal. The squares around the king are also weakened by that early f-pawn advance, g3 and e3 are vulnerable with one less pawn to defend those squares. White can try to minimize that by playing into a Stonewall setup with pawns at f4, e3, d4 and c3, but that creates a hole at e4 and makes the dark-squared bishop limited. One can have a certain level with success with it at the club level, but at the higher levels of competition, the positional concessions you make in this opening will be exploited by the top players.

SmyslovFan

Well, Vladimir Kramnik is known as probably the best theoretician on the planet, and this is what happened to him when Carlsen played 1.f4:



incorrectname

playable as long as your arm and hand still work and can support the weight of the f pawn