Is 5..b5!? the refutation of the Fried Liver Attack?

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verizondsl

verizondsl

I've been getting losses from a guy whom I'm playing blitz chess over the weekend in a local chess club. Since he used this line I'm having troubles scoring with my 1.e4 though he still cannot beat me with my Catalan I wanna switch back with favorite e4 as soon as possible. 

verizondsl

I noticed the reigning world champion Magnus Carlsen used it against GM Naiditsch at the 37th Chess Olympiad in Turin and won using zwugzwang motif. According to the database white players has since improved and played 7.Nxf7 instead of Ne6 or Nf3. The resulting endgame after the main line 6.Bf1 h6 7.Nxf7 Kxf7 8.dxc6 Qd5 9.Qf3 Qxf3 10.gxf3 is just over my head at the moment while 6.Bf1 h6 7.Nf3 Nd4 8.Nxd4 exd4 9.Bxb5+ Bd7 10.Qe2+ I think is OK for white. The real concern is when he goes all out with 6.Bf1 Nd4?! .7.c3 Nxd5 8.Ne4 Qh4 9.Ng3 Bg4 10.f3 e4!? 11.cxd4 Bd6 which is hard to handle in blitz especially in 3mins time control (without increments). I'm experimenting with engines at the moment just to see how they play it out.

computo200

Bf1!

 

White is better.

yureesystem

Bf1 is a lot better.

verizondsl

Thanks guys! Smile especially fireflashghost. I'm sorry for my forum topic title I just "branded" it as a refutation since I can't play Fried Liver anymore which I almost always play and win against him and other blitz park players.

Kingdom_Hearts

I think that b5 is strong and the funny thing is today I just posted a blog on the Fried Liver Attack which you can view via my profile, please do and tell me what you think, as for b5 I think white's liver just got fried ;D

cornbeefhashvili

Yeah, 5. ... b5 is not a refutation. Just one of the many lines of the Fried Liver. I play this line for black and it is FUN!

verizondsl

@Kingdom_Hearts: Sure! Can you send me a link to your blog? Laughing

Kingdom_Hearts

It's a variation Cogwhell of the Fried liver...

tmkroll

It's not (as was said above more than a few times.)

Kingdom_Hearts

Well that's what my database says...

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tmkroll

Off topic but databases and big opening books often try to classify every position under the name of an opening. For some reason all of my irregular Benonis end up Schmidt Benoni when I analyze with a chessbase product when they're nothing like that line at all. It's not hard to imagine one calling everything after Ng5 the fried liver because it's odd that variation isn't named itself. They're really not relaible if what you're trying to figure out is the name of the line for the sake of the name of the line... however it doesn't attually matter what you call what you what name for any practical purpose ... I think Shakespeare might have said something about that.

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