Is this at all a Gambit?

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Garymossu
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shuttlechess92

No it is just a blunder. I believe you are referring to 3..d6, allowing white to take the f7 pawn?

 

much better is 3..e6 when White's queen is misplaced.

Garymossu
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marvellosity

No trap... you simply had a lost position.

TheOldReb

3.... Ne5 was better, winning the "minor exchange" 

Reinfeld

That's no gambit....bad moves on both sides.

Garymossu
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Tricklev

Well, after 4 Qf7+ you had a worthless position, and his was hardly worse than you, except that he was up a pawn and you had no compensation for it except for a king on the run and no castling, which, incidently, is no good things.

PaladinIsBack192

Bad game. Gambit? Huh. More like lost game.

Garymossu
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Nytik

Here is my analysis of what should have happened. Enjoy!

The Bowlder Attack variation of the Sicilian Defence. Black is known to have the advantage here, after 2... e6 blocking the bishop's scope.
White develops his queen too early in the game. 3... Nf6, 3... e6 and 3... Ne5 are all good moves, and give black the advantage.
After 3... d6? white clearly has the advantage. He is a pawn up and black has no compensation. His best continuation would be normal development, for example:
And white is clearly better.
Tricklev

I'm not snobby, and my rating is nothing impressive, but this opening just isn´t any good, you give up your castling, a pawn, and development (being in checks isn´t exactly giving you lots of time) for no reason at all. Atleast white has his queen and bishop developted, and can easily continue to develop, you´ve got a king you have to get to safety, and only a knight developed. White is alot better.

WinDrawLoss

look, don't lash out at everybody for saying the truth.  They are not acting "snobbish", they are being blunt.  You asked if that move was a gambit, and well, it wasn't, it was just a blunder.

Simplest is Bxf7+ Kd7 Bxg8 where you have lost castling rights + a pawn, although Qxf7 was not a bad move, just harder to calculate.  White was fine with many escape routes.

Garymossu
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Garymossu
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Tricklev
Garymossu wrote:

Look Mr. Tricklev.   My ratings are higher than yours across the board.  You never even played a quick game on this site, let alone beat somebody with a 1400 quick rating.  I don't think of you as a snob, but perhaps the former.  Please be a little more patient and learn from what you see.


How is my lack of quick rating relevant? I don´t play quick, nor Blitz, I don't enjoy it, but I fail to see why my lack of quick rating makes 3...d6 a good idea. I haven´t even been offensive to you, I gave my opinion on the position, that´s all. If you can´t handle people giving opinions you disslike, maybe www.Disney.com is a homepage more suited to your character.

Garymossu
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