Italian Game: Two Knights Defense, Traxler Counterattack (C57)

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13yearold

This is probably the best known defense agianst the "Fried Liver Attack". I would like to know the point of the essential Bc5 move, and how you should continue if white plays Nxf7.

 

 

Txns for helping me. :D

amtemplet

I usually play d5 after Ng5.  Things can get bloody in the center, but my experience is that black usually comes out even, with an intact kingside and sufficient counter-attacking possibilities.

NimzoRoy

The Fried Liver Attack goes 4...d5 5.ed5 Nd5!? 6.Nf7, ergo the Traxler Variation is not a "defense" vs the Fried Liver Attack - it's another variation of The Two Kits Defense.

http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kaiss23.pdf

http://www.chesscafe.com/text/lane163.pdf

Start using search engines to get answers without waiting for anyone else. AND a search of this site will show you some blogs and forums about the Traxler Variation www.cln.org/searching_faqs.html

Scottrf

The idea is that black counterattacks on f2 with Bxf2, but to me it looks terrible and engines agree. Presumably it's not so easy for white to survive OTB.



NimzoRoy
Scottrf wrote:

The idea is that black counterattacks on f2 with Bxf2, but to me it looks terrible and engines agree. Presumably it's not so easy for white to survive OTB.

It is if you know what you're doing.
In fact the only "problem" appears to be choosing which one of several refutations you want to play as White 
Steelerrebel

f you would like to see the thoughts of a correspondence master on this subject, see http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-Knights-A-Chess-Killing-Machine-with-an-Emphasis-on-4-Ng5-/271319251507?ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

Conquistador
Steelerrebel wrote:

f you would like to see the thoughts of a correspondence master on this subject, see http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-Knights-A-Chess-Killing-Machine-with-an-Emphasis-on-4-Ng5-/271319251507?ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

Dude you have spammed this link on every Two Knights Defense thread.  Advertising much?

AKJett
NimzoRoy wrote:

The Fried Liver Attack goes 4...d5 5.ed5 Nd5!? 6.Nf7, ergo the Traxler Variation is not a "defense" vs the Fried Liver Attack - it's another variation of The Two Kits Defense.

http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kaiss23.pdf

http://www.chesscafe.com/text/lane163.pdf

Start using search engines to get answers without waiting for anyone else. AND a search of this site will show you some blogs and forums about the Traxler Variation www.cln.org/searching_faqs.html


the gary lane text continues a response from sloughterchess...

ak99_hello
ak99_hello

d5 is the correct move