King's Gambit for Black - Solid Opening Plan

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sportoman

Can anyone suggest a solid, positional approach to dealing with King's Gambit.  As black, I find I'm often getting killed with king safety and pressure on f7.  

Just looking for a slower, solid, positional approach that will hopefully allow me to castle and equalize out of the opening.

Thanks in advance.

blank0923

Not too familiar with the King's Gambit, but I think 2...exf4 3.Nf3 d5 4.exd5 Nf6 is one of the more solid lines.

Chuck639

What did Fischer say or do?

I stopped playing the KG because there was a lot of theory and for the most part, black does equalize.

betgo

Yeh, 3...d5 is a strong positional approach. You can play the Falkbeer Countergambit 2... d5 and after 3xd5, 3 ... e4, 3...c6, or 3 ... exf4 transposing. There is also the KGD 2 ... Bc5. attempting to exploit white's open kingside, and less open than the Falkbeer. 

There are many replies to the KG. You can take an approach that leads to less of an attack, but the KG usually leads to a wide open tactical game with both sides having king security issues. However, it can lead to exchanges of pieces and an endgame.

If you really do not want to deal with an attack, do not play 1 ... e5. You can sometime play into drawish endgamish lines like the Petroff Defense and the Berlin Defense, but you can face the KG and other aggressive lines. Play the Caro-Kann, French, Pirc or whatever if you want a positional game.

HunterT43

2...Nf6 Is the way to go. GM Daniel Noraditsky did a piece on it in his Opening Lab series on YTB. There's a course which includes those lines on Chessable, but it's part of a larger repetoire 1. e4 e5 for Black. The course is called From Berlin to Rio. Clear ideas, easier games. Not too much theory.

RussBell

The following are two interesting, somewhat related approaches for Black....declining the gambit...

Chess Opening King's Gambit AS BLACK! - (1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIt5sdduH2E

How to Play Against the Kings Gambit with GM Daniel Naroditsky and GoldDustTori - (1.e4 e5 2.f4 c6 preparing ...d5)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYXOOcIJp_k

otherwise.....also from Black's perspective...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=beat+king%27s+gambit

and...

several more resources from Black's perspective here, including Bobby Fischer's "bust" to the KG....

The King's Gambit...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/the-kings-gambit

tygxc

"The refutation of any gambit begins with accepting it.
In my opinion the King's Gambit is busted. It loses by force." - Fischer
http://brooklyn64.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/a-bust-to-the-kings-gambit.pdf 

nighteyes1234

Too pathetic for black overall.

btw, "solid" approach made me laugh. You mean, besides 2...Bc5...that stupid losing move.

The OP is 'better' than that....happy.png. I pretend to be super GM and learn in 5 min video how to beat KG! Im so special.

 

betgo

The Fisher defense 3...d6 is a reasonable approach, but maybe not the best to avoid an attack. I do not know what he was talking about that the KG loses by force. How can an opening as white lose by force? He had just been beaten by the KG by Spasky. He was probably looking into defenses. However, he probably would not have published 3 ... d6 if he intended to use it.

alain978

Playing a "counter-King gambit" with 2....f5! would be a good challenge!

betgo

KG is played at the highest level now, but infrequently. Below the master level, I would not assume it is unplayable at all. It is obviously more playable in blitz and rapid games.  You can play all sorts of openings at the 1800 level or whatever, and your opponents will not be able to exploit their weaknesses. There is no need at all the play the most sound openings or the main lines.

e_xtacy

every time i see kings gambit, i just play g5 as black and my opponents dont know what to do

jamesstack
verylate wrote:
pfren wrote:

I do not find any reason good enough to prefer one move order over the other.

Indeed. Would it be too much of a stretch to say that the reason the KG is so infrequently played nowadays is that it doesn't just allow black an easy path to easy equality, but it gives black a wide choice of paths to easy equality?

Actually I think its much simpler than that. Top level players seem to prefer to play safe positions with white where they have a slight advantage and try to press that advantage for the full point.

betgo

 Most gambits are essentially trick plays, with many traps for opponents to fall into. The KG worked at the top level 150 years ago and is fine at lower levels or fast time controls now. At the top level, you generally need to play very sound openings that get good results under best play.

kov0

Don't know if someone else posted this but...

https://youtu.be/zEytN1zSTEE

betgo

That video is one of those "how to crush" videos. Ridiculously favorable to black to get views. I watched the first part where it shows all the lines where black gets a big attack on white's king after 3 d4 or 3 Nc3 or whatever.

Fisher wrote that article saying the Kings Gambit loses by force after he had been beat with it, and he did not lose often. Maybe he wanted to discourage people from playing it against him.

ItsAbhishek2912

Lead and sacrifice Knights

Nytemere

FINALLY SOMEONE WANTS TO PLAY THE KINGS GAMBIT

I play it too, by the way

Korean_Zombie80
sportoman escribió:

Can anyone suggest a solid, positional approach to dealing with King's Gambit.  As black, I find I'm often getting killed with king safety and pressure on f7.  

Just looking for a slower, solid, positional approach that will hopefully allow me to castle and equalize out of the opening.

Thanks in advance.

The best defense with this charachetristics against KG is the nimzowitsch-marshall countergambit, be sure to study it. @sportoman

Korean_Zombie80

There is also modern defense against KG and Bonsch-Osmolovsky Variation wich is very interesting.