Knight openings for black and white.

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CDOT_Chess

I've decided during my playing of chess i'd like to foster a simple opening repertoire.

as white Reti opening/Zuckertort opening 1. Knight f3 
or 
The Van Geet opening 1. Knight c3

as black I'd like to play in a similar fashion 

against e4  alekhine defense ...Knight f6
                   Nimvowich defense Knight c6

against d4 indian game/ mikenas defense
against c4 ---same ideas

in my experience with using this method in bullet it's allowed me to feel comfortable in a lot of situations. 

My question to the more experience chess lovers out there. What are some positions/openings/ traps/ gambits I should familiarize myself with if I want to continue to use this opening gameplan. 

EX. a lot of my reti games transpose into the spanish
 or a lot of my nimzo games transpose into italian/ 4knights

Thanks in advance everyone!

Toldsted

Your openings are in reality very different! With White you are typically in for a slow start, but Aljechin or Nimzowitch are fighting openings that can get really messy.

If you like the slow aproach try to look for adding something like the Hedgehog for Black. If you like the wild approack go for something like Aljechin in the forehand: 1.g3 e5 2.Nf3.

If you find an opening that really works for you then check for a strong player, that is playing this opening and try to copy their whole opening repertoire. 

CDOT_Chess

Thanks for the info friend!

king5minblitz119147

1 nf3 is not exactly simple, as you basically invite pretty much anything except 1..e5,and even this move can be played later. so you are not cutting down black's good options all that much. 1 nc3 is not better in terms of limiting the opponent's good options, and is much worse in terms of leaving your own options open, as now c4 type positions are out. it is much simpler to put at least one pawn in the center and keep it there and keep developing, instead of inviting the opponent to put his pawns in the center and run the risk of being suffocated (especially as white) when you don't have to. at some point a pawn confrontation is inevitable anyway so if you are looking to avoid it very early by not playing a pawn in the center, you are only postponing it for a while and you risk being a lot worse in the process. i see no upside. but just my opinion after all.

ThrillerFan

1.Nf3 is not the Reti.  It can lead to the Reti, but it can also lead to many other openings that depend on both Black and White.

 

If Black plays an early ...d5 and White plays an early c4, does not have to be the next move by each, and d4 is not played by White, you are in a Reti.

If White plays an early c4 and Black does not play d5 and White does not play d4, you are in an English Opening 

If White fianchettoes his Kingside, and plays d3 and e4 (no c4), you are in a Kings Indian Attack.

If White plays an early d4, you are in one of a million possible Queen Pawn openings, depending on both players.

 

So 1.Nf3 is not simple at all.  It is VERY transpositional and can easily confuse many beginners.

 

I would highly suggest 1.e4 instead, sticking with simple lines, even if they may only be equal:

Closed Sicilian

Slow Italian

Advance French

Exchange Caro-Kann

 

Then when you get stronger, expand off if those, like learn either the Open Sicilian or Ruy Lopez or 3.Nc3 French or Advance Caro-Kann.

Dsmith42
king5minblitz119147 wrote:

1 nf3 is not exactly simple, as you basically invite pretty much anything except 1..e5,and even this move can be played later. so you are not cutting down black's good options all that much. 1 nc3 is not better in terms of limiting the opponent's good options, and is much worse in terms of leaving your own options open, as now c4 type positions are out. it is much simpler to put at least one pawn in the center and keep it there and keep developing, instead of inviting the opponent to put his pawns in the center and run the risk of being suffocated (especially as white) when you don't have to. at some point a pawn confrontation is inevitable anyway so if you are looking to avoid it very early by not playing a pawn in the center, you are only postponing it for a while and you risk being a lot worse in the process. i see no upside. but just my opinion after all.

Have to disagree - I play the Reti and it is extremely flexible, and can easily punish any attempt black makes for space and/or tranquility in the center.  That's the point of it all.  Many 1. Nf3 are intending to transpose into a QGD, but if white doesn't (and I don't), the main line 1. ..d5 is actually quite bad for black after 2. c4.  Any center pawn thrust leaves black weaker.  If black wants to stay in the game, he has to leave the center open.  White can close it if he wants, but he doesn't have to.

The "risk" you're talking about is no risk at all for someone who knows the hypermodern school.  A big pawn center is a target, and without suitable tempo it is unsupportable.  Many classical players don't know how to restrain those center pawns, but once you learn how you quickly realize they are more of a liability than an asset.

The Reti Opening is the strongest opening available for the attacking player.  Not for the faint of heart, as open lines mean complex tactics, but the idea that black can counter with a center pawn roller is simply wrong.  Any such attempts will lose the game for black very, very quickly.

Dsmith42

I actually played the Nimzowitsch (1. ..Nc6) as my main 1. e4 defense for a couple of years, and it is solid, especially if you press the attack on the queenside (where black always gets strong counterplay).  The main line second move 2. ..d5 leads to sharp play in the center, so sometimes I played 2. ..d6 or 2. ..e6 instead.  It's easier to learn than the Alekhine.

I think that 1. ..e6 is a stronger play for the center.  Nimzowitsch himself actually played the French Defense a lot.

king5minblitz119147

didn't say the reti is not flexible so i don't know what you are disagreeing with here. in fact, the flexibility is what makes it hard to play and hence my point. there are too many options and as white you are not really narrowing down those options by playing nf3 on move 1.

 

specifically, 1 nf3 d5 2 c4 as you are suggesting, is considered inferior for white, allowing 2..d4, and the reason many strong players prefer 2 d4. i don't like provoking my opponents to take space when it is good and cannot be punished. the only reason i would consider playing this way is if i believe i can somehow trick black in some tactical line, which in itself is rather irresponsible, if i know that positionally i am a lot worse and i cannot even equalize. i think that is the case after 1 nf3 d5 2 c4 d4.

 

 

CDOT_Chess

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