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ionesco

Here's an opening I have been processing with a group of students I coach. I haven't found a name for it...

Can someone tell me what this is? Is there a great response for black? I haven't found anything at this point.


Canutus

Italian Game, Two Knights Defence... Black can now best play 4...d5.

ionesco

Fegatello... THANK YOU!!!

KennethGee50

also looks very similar to the fried liver attack

magipi
KennethGee50 wrote:

also looks very similar to the fried liver attack

This is your contribution 12 years later? Seriously?

Back in 2013 Levy Rozman wasn't streming yet. It was only later that he misnamed this position as the "Fried liver attack", which is a horribly bad name as "Fried liver" already exists as an opening variation.

KennethGee50

that was not very kind of you nor was it very insightful. The fried liver attack and the fried liver are the same and not only has just one teacher gone over this. Ben Finegold has covered that an the Traxler. I was trying to be constructive. You are neither he original poster nor the responder. You attack both Levy and myself. What would you suggest i do with that?

magipi
KennethGee50 wrote: What would you suggest i do with that?

Wait another 12 years and then answer.

I provided some historical context to a name that is used incorrectly. I also pointed out that this is a long dead thread that you resurrected for absolutely no reason. I think that my comment was useful, and I attacked no one.

KennethGee50

so you now are the police of what people can say and when? I was looking for openings that involved Nf5 and this is what the site lead me to. I made a comment. This position does look like the fried liver attack. You did attack Levy and you did attack me. You are now aware of this behavior. Please correct it. Further attacks from you will be reported.

magipi
KennethGee50 wrote:

so you now are the police of what people can say and when? I was looking for openings that involved Nf5 and this is what the site lead me to. I made a comment. This position does look like the fried liver attack. You did attack Levy and you did attack me. You are now aware of this behavior. Please correct it. Further attacks from you will be reported.

Dude, you can report whoever you want. But necroing long dead threads is against the site rules.

Laskersnephew

Ng5 not f5

KennethGee50

well no i searched Nf5 and this is what i got. but rather than be mean to Chess.com i just commented on the position. But thank you i know what I am doing and saying.

Laskersnephew

The N is on g5 a dark square) not f5 (a light square). In fact, the diagrammed position in #1 arose from 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb4 Nf6 4.Ng5 This position has occurred thousands of times. Black generally plays 4...d5

888STARZ


Interesting discussion! Nf5 often pops up in aggressive lines. Exploring its use in the Italian Game and related tactics could uncover some creative possibilities. Thanks for sharing!

Compadre_J

The OP made a mistake in his notation.

The Knight is on g5 which is notated as Ng5

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Also, The Position the OP is showing is called the Italian Game: Knights Attack Variation.

It’s not considered the Fried Liver Attack.

The Fried Liver Attack is the below position:

The above position is considered good for White

Black 5th move in the above position is considered to be an error.

So White position is good because Black made an error.

With Best play, White will never reach the Fried Liver because Black will play other moves.

Black best 5th moves are the ones I showed above.

All of the above moves I showed avoids the Fried Liver Attack and are completely different positions.

Laskersnephew

A knight on f5 can be a mighty weapon! I believe Gary Kasparov once said something like "If I get a knight on f5, no one can beat me." but in the position given in post #1, there is no knight on f5, nor is there any prospect of getting one there in the near future. There is a knight on g5

sawdof
KennethGee50 wrote:

... This position does look like the fried liver attack. ...

https://www.chess.com/article/view/fried-liver-attack-chess-opening

sawdof
magipi wrote:

This is your contribution 12 years later? Seriously?

Things don't always improve after 12 years. Why so serious?

Laskersnephew
Great red wines from Bordeaux improve after 12 years
pranav12590

E4

KennethGee50
Compadre_J wrote:

The OP made a mistake in his notation.

The Knight is on g5 which is notated as Ng5

——————————

Also, The Position the OP is showing is called the Italian Game: Knights Attack Variation.

It’s not considered the Fried Liver Attack.

The Fried Liver Attack is the below position:

The above position is considered good for White

Black 5th move in the above position is considered to be an error.

So White position is good because Black made an error.

With Best play, White will never reach the Fried Liver because Black will play other moves.

Black best 5th moves are the ones I showed above.

All of the above moves I showed avoids the Fried Liver Attack and are completely different positions.

But the positions are the same. it is the move Ng5 that starts the fried liver. As many teachers out there have shown almost all openings can transform into other openings. So again i was looking for Nf5 in the opening and because of a missed placed title or this was as close as chess.com could find this is what i got. Not being mean here, just working with the things i have. So please show me the difference in what you posted and the original posted.