Opening move 1.d4?

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mk_Alam_0808

Why you play 1.d4 as Opening move, after d4 which variations and sub-variations you each like and why? Key square, strategy, tactics, common Middle game plan/structure and finally common End game pawn structure and wining or defending method. Please write down those opening, you play usually. I not asking you to write a book, only a brief discussion. Thanks.

chry3841

I think in my Quenn's indian defence writing all those will take years, for basis positions you can view them at wikipedia writing the name of the opening, if you want somethink more "dense" try an opening book  that takes them all.

mk_Alam_0808

I think in my Quenn's indian defence writing all those will take years, for basis positions you can view them at wikipedia writing the name of the opening, if you want somethink more "dense" try an opening book  that takes them all.

wrote chry3841

My friend chry3841 and AnthonyCG,

Your advice is very nice. And a easy solution.All chess player need book,journals, database etc. But no can apply all thinks properly on board. I just request you to exchange your own style. Each opening have a different variation and sub-variation. And you must chose one individual variation and sub-variation. Other wise learning chess and it application will be tough to every chess player. I am requesting you to write about your chess experience and knowledge. I want to discuss about specific sub-variation that you well prepared and used to play.If I clear my ideas, please write and let us discuss.Thanks a lot.

JuicyJ72

Right now I play d4 to get into a Colle system (Nf3 e3).  When I get some more experience I will probably add the reguular Queen's Gambit and maybe the Catalan (or play Nf3 for a KIA).  But right now I do mainline Colle-Zuckertort against the standard response (d5, e6 etc).  Against Bf5 or Bg4 I convert with c4 and Qb3 into more of a QGD and target black' weakened light squares on the queenside especially b7 and d5.  Against the KID I'm a bit more open.  I may play a Torre, sometimes I just stay with the Colle-Z as well, sometimes I play more or less a main line.

mk_Alam_0808

Friend  jlueke,

Now, from your practical experience, you just write up on colle system as ask for actually. In brief off course but touch that I have mention earlier.  Its one kind of survey and expression of chess knowledge. We play chess with some knowledge of the mention topic. I like to exchange that key element to others.Many many thanks for response.


kevin2

The best opening move you can make is E4 because you can get be better postion on the chess board.

JuicyJ72

mkaalam,

The key squares in the Colle would really be e5 and h7.  White wants to control e5, and ideally place the knight there.  If black can play e5 he can usually equalize.  This is why the Colle proper is less effective against the KID where e5 can't easily be avoided.  The h7 square is a clear target for white's bishop to allow the queen or rooks to penetrate and deliver mate.  The strategy revolves around controlling e5, in addition black often tries to eliminate white's light squared bishop to prevent the targeting of h7.  This is often done via Nc6 (also eyeing e5) and nb4 and is the main reason white plays a3 in the Zuckertort (c3 has a similar effect in the Stonewall).  The Colle isn't full of tactics, the main one is the bishop sacrifice on h7.  Later there can also be a rook sacrifice on f6.  The middle game depends on how black tries to thwart white's plans.  It's generally still a struggle for the e5 square.  But it can change, say black takes the knight on e5, white can have pawns on e3-e5 and f4.  Regardless, white typically plays on the kingside for a win while black counters in the center if possible or else on the queenside.  I don't know that I've had enough endgames out of the Colle to comment on the likely pawn structures and play there.

mk_Alam_0808

jlueke,

Yes, you guessed my points and I am too happy that you have done a lot. Thanks from my heart. I get one's Colle system practical openion. It create the opertuanoty execute the GREEK BISHOP. Sacked bishop on h7, check by night on g5 and join the queen in immidite action including rook sack on f6 squre. 

Note: I requesting my friends to explain like/more write up like jlueke.

mk_Alam_0808

kevin2,

You can see my other article named: Opening move  1e4? and please try to write up like jlueke,  brief but focused. Thanks my friend.  

MikeDoyle

http://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/the-queens-gambit2  has some examples of d4 openings. There are so very, very many, too many to list here.

All of these ECO codes are d4 openings:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Chess_Opening_Theory/ECO_volume_D

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Chess_Opening_Theory/ECO_volume_E

MikeDoyle

Additionally, there are these irregular d4 openings:

A41: Tartakower System: 1. d4 d6A42: Tartakower System with 2. c4: 1. d4 d6 2.c4A43: Various Benonis: 1. d4 c5A44: Old Benoni: 1. d4 c5 2. d5 e5A44: Semi-Benoni: 1. d4 c5 2. d5 e5 3. e4 d6A45: Unusual Indian Openings: 1. d4 Nf6A45: Trompowsky Attack: 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5A46: Unusual Indian Openings with 2. Nf3: 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3A47: Unusual Indian Openings with 2. Nf3: 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 b6A48: Torre Attack with 2...e6: 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. Bg5A48: Torre Attack with 2...g6: 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Bg5A48: London System: 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. Bf4A49: Fianchetto Variation: 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. g3A50: Black Knights' Tango: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 Nc6A51: Budapest Gambit Declined and Unusual Lines: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5A52: Budapest Gambit Main Lines: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4A53: Old Indian Defence: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6A54: Old Indian Defence main lines: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6 3. Nc3 e5A55: Old Indian Defence main lines: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6 3. Nc3 e5 4. Nf3A56: Czech Benoni: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5A57: Benko/Volga Gambit sidelines: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5A58: Benko/Volga Gambit Accepted: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cxb5A59: Benko/Volga Gambit Accepted (White castles by hand): 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cxb5 a6 5. bxa6 Bxa6 6. Nc3 d6 7. e4A60: Modern Benoni and early divergences: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6A61: Modern Benoni without early e4: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6A62: Modern Benoni, Fianchetto Variation without early ...Nbd7: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. g3A63: Modern Benoni, Fianchetto Variation sidelines: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. g3 Bg7 8. Bg2 O-OA64: Modern Benoni, Fianchetto Variation main line: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. g3 Bg7 8. Bg2 O-O 9.O-O Re8 10. Nd2 Nbd7A65: Modern Benoni, sidelines with early e4: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4A66: Modern Benoni, Mikenas Attack: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. f4 Bg7 8. e5A67: Modern Benoni, Taimanov Variation: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. f4 Bg7 8. Bb5+A68: Modern Benoni, Four Pawns Attack without 9...Re8: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. f4 Bg7 8. Nf3 O-O9. Bd3A69: Modern Benoni, Four Pawns Attack with 9...Re8: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. f4 Bg7 8. Nf3 O-O 9.Re8A70: Modern Benoni, 7.Nf3: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3A71: Modern Benoni, 7.Nf3 Bg7 8.Bg5 without Be2: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3 Bg7 8. Bg5A72: Modern Benoni, Classical Variation with Bg5: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3 Bg7 8. Be2 O-O 9.Bg5A73: Modern Benoni, Classical Variation and unusual Black 9th moves: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3Bg7 8. Be2 O-O 9. O-OA74: Modern Benoni, Classical Variation with 9...a6: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3 Bg7 8. Be2 O-O 9.O-O a6A75: Modern Benoni, Classical Variation main line: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3 Bg7 8. Be2 O-O 9.O-O a6 10. a4 Bg4A76: Modern Benoni, Classical Variation with 9...Re8 10.Qc2: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3 Bg7 8.Be2 O-O 9. O-O Re8 10. Qc2A77: Modern Benoni, Classical Variation with 9...Re8 10.Nd2: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3 Bg7 8.Be2 O-O 9. O-O Re8 10. Nd2A78: Modern Benoni, Classical Variation with 10...Na6: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3 Bg7 8. Be2 O-O9. O-O Re8 10. Nd2 Na6A79: Modern Benoni, Classical Variation with 10...Na6 11.f3: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3 Bg7 8.Be2 O-O 9. O-O Re8 10. Nd2 Na6 11. f3A80: Dutch Defence and unusual White second moves: 1. d4 f5A81: Dutch Defence with 2.g3: 1. d4 f5 2. g3A82: Dutch Defence, Staunton Gambit: 1. d4 f5 2. e4A83: Dutch Defence, Staunton Gambit with 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5: 1. d4 f5 2. e4 fxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5A84: Dutch Defence, 2.c4: 1. d4 f5 2. c4A85: Dutch Defence, 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. Nc3A86: Dutch Defence, Leningrad Variation sidelines: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3A87: Dutch Defence, Leningrad Variation with 5.Nf3: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 Nf6 3. g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Nf3A88: Dutch Defence, Leningrad Variation main line 7...c6: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 Nf6 3. g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 c6A89: Dutch Defence, Leningrad Variation main line 7...Nc6: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 Nf6 3. g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 c6A90: Dutch Defence sidelines and Stonewall: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 e6A91: Dutch Defence, Classical Variation sidelines: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7A92: Dutch Defence, Classical Stonewall with ...Be7 and early deviations: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. Nf3A93: Dutch Defence, Classical Stonewall with 7.b3: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. Nf3 d5 6. O-O O-O 7. b3A94: Dutch Defence, Classical Stonewall with 7.b3 c6 8.Ba3: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. Nf3 d5 6. O-O O-O 7. b3 c6 8. Ba3A95: Dutch Defence, Classical Stonewall with 7.Nc3 c6: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. Nf3 d5 6. O-O O-O 7. Nc3 c6A96: Dutch Defence, Ilyin-Genevsky Variation: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. O-O d6A97: Dutch Defence, Ilyin-Genevsky Variation: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 Qe8A98: Dutch Defence, Ilyin-Genevsky Variation with 8.Qc2: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Qc2A99: Dutch Defence, Ilyin-Genevsky Variation with 8.b3: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. b3
mk_Alam_0808

I need concise and practical experiences not the reference. What I ask it not include in one book. Its a practical experiences. It is tag of opening game, middle game and also end game which will covers my demand/requrement. Thanks Doyel.

trigs
mkaalam wrote:

I need concise and practical experiences not the reference. What I ask it not include in one book. Its a practical experiences. It is tag of opening game, middle game and also end game which will covers my demand/requrement. Thanks Doyel.


actually, what you are asking it for someone to summarize an entire 1. d4 opening book to you in less than 200 words. not easy.

JuicyJ72
trigs wrote:
mkaalam wrote:

I need concise and practical experiences not the reference. What I ask it not include in one book. Its a practical experiences. It is tag of opening game, middle game and also end game which will covers my demand/requrement. Thanks Doyel.


actually, what you are asking it for someone to summarize an entire 1. d4 opening book to you in less than 200 words. not easy.


Only if you play them all

mk_Alam_0808

 trigs,

Add withJueke, Say you used to open d4. Then you allow black at least few openings, 1) King's Indian Defence 2) Nimzo-Indian/Bogo-indian/Queen's  Defence 3) Grunfeld Defence  4) Queens Gambit Acceptet or Decline. Now from this opening or other , which you apply with your opponent, you just choose one or two opening that you have well prepared; You just pick one or two opening from that, and try maintained hints that I ask in my top note, It help me and other's a lot. Thanks.

mk_Alam_0808

Friend jlueke,

Thanks for you precious comments. I can not explain the matter to my friends. Thanks to help me a lot.

Khorshed

trigs
mkaalam wrote:

 trigs,

Add withJueke, Say you used to open d4. Then you allow black at least few openings, 1) King's Indian Defence 2) Nimzo-Indian/Bogo-indian/Queen's  Defence 3) Grunfeld Defence  4) Queens Gambit Acceptet or Decline. Now from this opening or other , which you apply with your opponent, you just choose one or two opening that you have well prepared; You just pick one or two opening from that, and try maintained hints that I ask in my top note, It help me and other's a lot. Thanks.


mkaalan,

consider those openings you mentioned. there are entire books written on just one of them (for example the king's indian defense as can be seen here). you are asking people to summarize everything about the opening in a short thread post. maybe someone can. i can't and i think it's impossible.

mk_Alam_0808

 trigs,

I am requesting only who have keen interest to write, other wish it impossible, we all already known it from comments. If you start from your practical knowledge , facing problem to execute the points(at top note), and some/many times execute those points very neatly, I just looking that not a book. Your Knowledge occurred from books and it's practical approach only. 

trigs
mkaalam wrote:

 trigs,

I am requesting only who have keen interest to write, other wish it impossible, we all already known it from comments. If you start from your practical knowledge , facing problem to execute the points(at top note), and some/many times execute those points very neatly, I just looking that not a book. Your Knowledge occurred from books and it's practical approach only. 


i'm sorry i have no idea what you are saying.

JuicyJ72

He is just asking, if you play a d4 opening what system do you aim for and what are the key strategic and tactical points you look for when playing that opening.