Openings similar to Caro-Kann

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Joe Gallagher describes Caro-Kann (played as Black) as belonging to the group of openings in which Black wants to "try to negate White's advantage of moving first through careful, no-nosense play" and as "increadibly solid".

What are the other openings (played as Black) that are similar to Caro-Kann in those respects and what are openings for White that may appeal to the player who feels with Caro-Kann at home.

All the best in the New Year 2015

Saint_Anne

For Black, Queen's Gambit Declined and Slav Defense.  As White, Colle System and London System.  Bore your opponents to tears.

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Thanks. It'd mean that I have a consistent "repertoire" (I play Colle as White and Caro-Kann and Slav as Black) and yes, indeed, I intend to "bore my opponents to tears"...

Apotek

of course some people may not be temperamentally suited to the caro kann.But calling the caro boring is too subjective to be taken seriously.for me boring may be the scotch or i may view the morra gambit as an opening  too cliched and mechanical to like.So one man's meat is another man's poison,please don't say the caro is boring just because you don't like it.especially the advance variation can lead to wild and highly unusual positions far from boring.

 
 
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In case it was not clear, I do like Caro-Kann (I'd not play it, if I didn't)

Apotek

as white,king's indian attack(Nf3,g3,Bg2,etc.)and theColle.As black the caro and the french against e4 and the schlechter slav(black fianchettoes his king bishop)and Queens gambit against d4.

ThrillerFan

I have a reputation of boring my opponents to tears outside of playing White against the Sicilian, in which case I have a reputation of getting away with cheap shots as they just don't understand the soundness of what I play against the Sicilian.

Here's my repertoire:

Black vs e4:  1...e5 (Petroff against 2.Nf3), Modern Defense, Caro-Kann
Black vs d4:  1...d5, Modern Defense, Dutch Stonewall/Classical
White:  1.e4 (Exchange Ruy if 3...a6, Advance French, Alekhine 4.Nf3, Scandinavian 3.Nf3, Fantasy Caro-Kann, 2.a3 Sicilian, Austrian Attack against Pirc/Modern), 1.Nf3 (Fianchetto KID, Fianchetto Grunfeld, Catalan, 4.Qc2-Slav, Classical QGA, Symmetrical English), and 1.b4

blueslick

Can one of you opening geniuses show me how to force a "boring" position in the caro after, say, the critical lines in the advance, where not many peices get traded off and there is rich strategical play on both sides of the board. Or perhaps the Shirov variation?

Saint_Anne

I have played the Caro-Kann, Queen's Gambit Declined, & London System a lot and enjoy playing them.  But they give me opportunities to bore my opponent.

ThrillerFan
blueslick wrote:

Can one of you opening geniuses show me how to force a "boring" position in the caro after, say, the critical lines in the advance, where not many peices get traded off and there is rich strategical play on both sides of the board. Or perhaps the Shirov variation?

Boredom can not be forced.

I have said this before on other posts.  Certain openings have a reputation of being Boring, Dynamic, Positional, or Tactical, but there is no way to force the issue, no matter what.

I have played Tactical Slavs (White played 5.e4), Positional Sicilians (Taimanov, Kan, Closed, etc with both colors), Boring Moderns (c3-lines), and Dynamic Londons (via my playing 1...g6, 2...Bg7, 3...d6, 4...Nc6, and 5...e5).

I will say this again.  I am a Chess Player!  Anybody that says "I am a positional player" or "I am a tactical player" or "I am a boring player" is NOT a chess player.

Again, as mentioned in the previous post of mine, my repertoire has a "reputation" of being boring, but that doesn't mean it is!  I have had boring games and I've had off-the-wall wild tactical battles with the same openings!

blueslick

^ that's what I'm saying.

Rogue_King

The carokann is far more exciting than any sicilian variation if you play it correctly. Too many are scared to play that style and take the boring drawish route. That's just player preference, the opening itself is quite exhilerating and leads to unusual complicated play. The different variations offer very different styles of play.

mouse-rat

the slav is very similar to the caro kann.

Bunny_Slippers_

I play the Caro a lot. I view it as an opening that most white players don't like to play against since it is a flank opening and many really don't know what to play against it. This is a generalization, but it's often true.

Often if white is unsure, they play the classical or perhaps the advance variations, since they seem the most natural for white. Occasionally I get to see the Panov or Accelerated Panov or a sort of Stonewall Attack, but it's not common. None of these openings for white should be taken lightly, a strong player who knows the lines can cause a lot of problems, but isn't that the case with any opening?

Personally, I view the Dutch Defence for black ( 1.d4 f5) as another flank opening that can vex white, but it has a different flavour than the Caro, certainly. The Dutch is a bit more aggressive, but lots of positional games show up as well. Both the Leningrad Dutch and the Stonewall Dutch are strong but I see the Stonewall as being more flexible and the Leningrad as being more defensive, a tougher nut to crack so to speak.

Or how about the French Defence? I see this as a cousin to the Caro, but I dislike how black's light square bishop gets trapped back in black's own end. We should try on a few of these openings for a while, I think the lines in some openings seem to suit our personalities better than others.