Openings that I'll be able to use every game

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MeruemThe1st

whats an opening i can play almost every game?

duntcare

sicilian, french defense, but of course if your opponent does do something you can attack, then just change, theres no good opening but u can pretty much develope normaly since opening = develop, if they do a weird move then theres no point in opening since its ment to counter the oponent, u can use scotch english dutch, all great openings, dragon is fine

ThrillerFan

You do not need to know every gambit, but to answer your question, NO!  No such opening exists.

 

Even as White, where many think there exist such systems, there do not!

Examples:

English - Some think you can play 1.c4/2.g3/3.Bg2/4.Nc3 against everything.  Not so.  After say, 1.c4 e5 2.g3 Nc6, the move 3.Bg2? Is a bad move because of 3...f5! 4.Nc3 Nf6! With the threat of e4 if White ever plays Nf3, and 5.d3 is not good, slight advantage for Black.  Instead, you must actually UNDERSTAND the English to play it!  After 1.c4 e5 2.g3 Nc6, you must answer Nc6 with 3.Nc3! So that if 3...f5, White can play 4.Nf3! And after 4...Nf6 5.d4! e4, White can play 6.Nh4!, attacking f5/g6, and not possible with a Bishop on g2.  White will entice g5 from Black, go Ng2, and then with h4, entice gxh4 or g4, giving White the beautiful f4-square as an outpost for the Knight.

 

The London is no good against the Mkdern because Black gets in e5 really quickly!

 

Same with Black.

Take the French.  1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5.  After 3.e5, 3...c5 is critical.  After 3.Nd2, 3...c5 is best.  After 3.Nc3, 3...c5 is awful!  You need to know why that is!  Not just mimic it like a robot.

 

But again, you do not need to learn every gambit.  Not like you have to learn the Evans Gambit when you are a French player, for example.  But if you are going to play the French, you must understand 3.Nc3, the Tarrasch, the Advance, the Exchange, the Two Knights, and the Kings Indian Attack, and all 6 lines are different.  That's chess!  Too lazy to do that?  Take up tic tac toe!

Sred

Actually, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/c/GothamChess/videos recommends playing the London for White and a KID setup for Black against everything for total beginners. BUT ... that won't work in the long run as you improve (there is also a video out there showing Hikaru Nakamura watching the part where GothamChess says that you can play the KID against everything - and Nakamura can't stop laughing). So it can get you going, but as you improve, you'll want something else.

mpaetz

No, there is no 4-or-5 move sequence that can be used every time. Learn basic opening principles, and choose openings and defenses where you can understand the idea behind them. If you are leery of gambits play more conservative systems and consider declining gambits. If you prefer tactics and action realize that you will lose a lot of games at first as you discover the pitfalls within each sharp opening. But most of all, know what it is that you are trying to accomplish in the openings you do play. "A bad plan is better than no plan."

xarxziux

https://www.amazon.com/Killer-Grob-Pergamon-Chess/dp/0080371310

ThrillerFan
MeruemThe1st wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:

You do not need to know every gambit, but to answer your question, NO!  No such opening exists.

 

Even as White, where many think there exist such systems, there do not!

Examples:

English - Some think you can play 1.c4/2.g3/3.Bg2/4.Nc3 against everything.  Not so.  After say, 1.c4 e5 2.g3 Nc6, the move 3.Bg2? Is a bad move because of 3...f5! 4.Nc3 Nf6! With the threat of e4 if White ever plays Nf3, and 5.d3 is not good, slight advantage for Black.  Instead, you must actually UNDERSTAND the English to play it!  After 1.c4 e5 2.g3 Nc6, you must answer Nc6 with 3.Nc3! So that if 3...f5, White can play 4.Nf3! And after 4...Nf6 5.d4! e4, White can play 6.Nh4!, attacking f5/g6, and not possible with a Bishop on g2.  White will entice g5 from Black, go Ng2, and then with h4, entice gxh4 or g4, giving White the beautiful f4-square as an outpost for the Knight.

 

The London is no good against the Mkdern because Black gets in e5 really quickly!

 

Same with Black.

Take the French.  1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5.  After 3.e5, 3...c5 is critical.  After 3.Nd2, 3...c5 is best.  After 3.Nc3, 3...c5 is awful!  You need to know why that is!  Not just mimic it like a robot.

 

But again, you do not need to learn every gambit.  Not like you have to learn the Evans Gambit when you are a French player, for example.  But if you are going to play the French, you must understand 3.Nc3, the Tarrasch, the Advance, the Exchange, the Two Knights, and the Kings Indian Attack, and all 6 lines are different.  That's chess!  Too lazy to do that?  Take up tic tac toe!

thanks for taking the time to respond. I've looked into it a little more and am fond of both the London System and the KID. Can these both be used pretty consistently as white, and if so which would you recommend. As black, I try to play the Stafford gambit but know a lot of traps within the first 15 moves no matter what so all good there.

 

Neither can mindlessly be played.

London - 1.d4 g6 2.Bf4? Bg7 3.e3 d6 4.Nf3 Nd7 (or 4...Nc6) 5.h3 e5! =/+

There are also certain lines where only c4 is good, not c3.  Do not ask specifically which ones.  I do not play the London as White - only 4 different systems against it as Black, one of which 1...g6 if I know you are exclusively a London player.

 

Kings Indian Attack - 1.e4 d5 makes the KIA impossible.  White gets nothing in reverse KI positions.  There are, realistically, only 2 cases where the KIA is a legit weapon:

 

1) Against the French - 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.Ngf3 c5 5.g3 Nc6 6.Bg2 Be7 7.O-O O-O 8.Re1 b5 9.e5 etc.

2) Against 2...e6 Sicilians - 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d3 Nc6 etc.

 

That LSB needs to be blocked for the KIA to be effective.  Same holds true for other openings, like the Catalan or Colle System.

 

 

Scrap the whole plan of trying to cookie cut your repertoire and actually try to understand the moves.  Your best bet is probably to read a book from the First Steps, Starting Out, or Move by Move series by Everyman.  If the opening you are looking to play is in the First Steps series, that would be the place to go first.

Sred

Why not start to play the London System against everything? You may find that it's not great against the Modern, no problem, just add 2. e4 against 1...d6 and 1...g6 to your repertoire and learn something simple like the 150 attack. It's a good start and you can expand on that.

SunGokuBr

There are some speed chess lines that aim for what you're looking for. They're too passive though, planning to make your opponent unconfortable to find a way in, waiting for a blunder and use time pressure. I don't think it's a great idea to learn chess on those lines. 

Sred
MeruemThe1st wrote:
Sred wrote:

Why not start to play the London System against everything? You may find that it's not great against the Modern, no problem, just add 2. e4 against 1...d6 and 1...g6 to your repertoire and learn something simple like the 150 attack. It's a good start and you can expand on that.

cheers sred ill look into it fasho

You might enjoy this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49H728S_VjM&list=PLBRObSmbZluTpMdP-rUL3bQ5GA8v4dMbT&index=7

You'll note that he recommends going 150 attack style against KID/Grünfeld setups and switching to a Queen's Gambit against early Bf5 approaches.

Sred

Also, if you like the London, take a look at the Stonewall Attack. Also doesn't work well against KID setups, but you can adapt.

RussBell

I suggest to learn the basic theme and plan of the Stonewall Attack before proceeding to the London System.  There are some similarities in their basic attacking plans, but the Stonewall Attack is easier to learn initially...

The Stonewall Attack...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/stonewall-attack

Introduction To The London System & Jobava London System...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/the-london-system

If you like the Stonewall Attack, you might also like the Stonewall Dutch Defense...

Win With the Stonewall Dutch by Sverre Johnsen & Ivar Bern

https://www.amazon.com/Win-Stonewall-Dutch-Sverre-Johnsen/dp/1906454078/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1611188852&sr=1-1

Dsmith42

I'm with @ThrillerFan on this one.  There's no such thing as a universal opening.  To some extent, the other player has to play along if you want to play a system opening.

The closest thing to universal that I've found is the Reti Opening (which I play), but even there black can respond to the initial 1. Nf3 with e6 or c6 which tends to lead to a QGD, Slav, or Semi-Slav transposition.  I've also seen 1. ..b5 played to prevent the 2. c4 thrust.  Black can even try to play 1. ..e5 as a gambit (I've seen this more than once).

No matter what opening you play, you need to be prepared for the various ways opponents will deviate from the main lines.  Even in the main lines, you need to understand the premise of the opening - what kinds of weaknesses you are attempting to provoke, and what counterplay the other side can generate.

ThrillerFan
Dsmith42 wrote:

I'm with @ThrillerFan on this one.  There's no such thing as a universal opening.  To some extent, the other player has to play along if you want to play a system opening.

The closest thing to universal that I've found is the Reti Opening (which I play), but even there black can respond to the initial 1. Nf3 with e6 or c6 which tends to lead to a QGD, Slav, or Semi-Slav transposition.  I've also seen 1. ..b5 played to prevent the 2. c4 thrust.  Black can even try to play 1. ..e5 as a gambit (I've seen this more than once).

No matter what opening you play, you need to be prepared for the various ways opponents will deviate from the main lines.  Even in the main lines, you need to understand the premise of the opening - what kinds of weaknesses you are attempting to provoke, and what counterplay the other side can generate.

 

The Reti is in no way Universal.  With no ...d5, you have no Reti!

 

1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 is the Reti

1.Nf3 c5 will land you in a Sicilian (2.e4) or English (2.c4) or Nimzowitsch Attack (2.b3)

1.Nf3 Nf6 can later transpose to the Reti or the English or a QP opening or the Kings Indian Attack.

 

So no, The Reti is not universal either.