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emef44

I am a beginner and have trouble playing as black. Any tips and ideas on how to not get dusted when on the black side?

JediMaster

 

Don't think about playing as black.  Just think about the best move possible.  If you make good moves you will be given an openings to take advantage of your opponent.  White make mistakes, just as does black.  It is mental making the second move.

 

 

 

 


KingLeopold
Just play the open games as Black...Two Knights, Guioco Piano and the Ruy Lopez, always looking for the best placement of your pieces. Against 1.d4 I suggest the Nimzo-Indian, fairly easy to learn and a tough nut against the Queen's Gambit.
TheOldReb
Try the Petroff defense as black against 1e4 , its very solid even at the highest levels.
Loomis

I realize this dosen't help you, but here is a game you can play with your friends:

 

You: Say a number.

Friend: 14.

You: 15. I win!

 

This is an example given by GM Rowson in his book on the Grunfeld. His point is that going second isn't always worse.  Your opponent has to tip his hand about his strategy before you do. 


Quix

I have trouble with black. I think the higher your rating gets the harder it is to play black against opponents of a similar rating. I just concentrate on trying to equalise using defensive measures. Then if the opportunity to take the initiative comes along - grab it.


JuliusH
I had a similar problem...well probably still have. Anyways a lot of openings people study are for white...well you'll be playing black 50% of the time! It's also instructive (when playing white) to look at black and consider what tactics they could pull. Then you will be able to play as black well against openings you've studied for white! Study tactics and position analysis so that you don't play too safely and end up getting crushed behind your own pawns.
Irandara

technically you have a very slight advantage as black because even if you are 1 move behind, the opponents move as white can lead you to guessing a strategy the opponent is using. then, you can counter it

 


Quix
Are you joking? I'm not a mean person but for the benefit of beginners who might take you seriously I must say that that is just nonsense. White is better because he/she always gain a dynamic (non permanant) advantage by completing development first and therefore being able to attack first, and /or a static (permanant) spacial advantage making maneuvering easier and restricting blacks options.
Lord-Svenstikov
I play much better as black than as white; I learn good counter attack openings. I recomend the scandanavian against E4 and the kings Indian defence against D4.
Ricardo_Morro
Despite the natural advantage of the first move for White, some people excel as Black for psychological reasons. Korchnoi is an example of a player who just seemed to be even keener when he had to go second. He loved to sucker the aggressor into overextending himself and then, bam! --destroying him with the counterattack. That's something I understand. The master Jude Acers said about me, "you're a good counterpuncher," and it's true. I'm at my best when fighting back, not as good when I'm having to press the fight. Another thing that happens is, that I play my best when I am making the moves I have to make, not so good when I have too many choices. I am a better responder than initiator. These are just some of the reasons that make some people like Black. I don't prefer Black, but I do like it.
King_of_Checkmates

In my Marshall U2400, I got crushed in both of my games that I played black.  Geoffrey Caveney, who was rated 436 points higher than me, played the Larsen's Opening.  WCM Iris Mou, who was rated 146 points higher than me, played the c3 Sicilian. How do I play these openings as black?

AlisonHart

I transpose into a French when they try the c3 Sicilian on me; it's not my favorite, but I find it easier to play than the lines more exclusive to the Alapin. I'm sure better players will chime in with better ideas though

 

 

kindaspongey

https://www.chess.com/article/view/how-to-start-out-in-chess
https://www.chess.com/article/view/study-plan-directory
"... In order to maximize the benefits of [theory and practice], these two should be approached in a balanced manner. ... Play as many slow games (60 5 or preferably slower) as possible, ... The other side of improvement is theory. ... This can be reading books, taking lessons, watching videos, doing problems on software, etc. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2002)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627084053/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman19.pdf
"... If it’s instruction, you look for an author that addresses players at your level (buying something that’s too advanced won’t help you at all). This means that a classic book that is revered by many people might not be useful for you. ..." - IM Jeremy Silman (2015)
https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-best-chess-books-ever
Here are some reading possibilities that I often mention:
Simple Attacking Plans by Fred Wilson (2012)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708090402/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review874.pdf
http://dev.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/Simple-Attacking-Plans-77p3731.htm
Logical Chess: Move by Move by Irving Chernev (1957)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708104437/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/logichess.pdf
The Most Instructive Games of Chess Ever Played by Irving Chernev (1965)
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/most-instructive-games-of-chess-ever-played/
Winning Chess by Irving Chernev and Fred Reinfeld (1948)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708093415/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review919.pdf
Back to Basics: Tactics by Dan Heisman (2007)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708233537/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review585.pdf
https://www.chess.com/article/view/book-review-back-to-basics-tactics
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5856bd64ff7c50433c3803db/t/5895fc0ca5790af7895297e4/1486224396755/btbtactics2excerpt.pdf
Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms (2006)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf
Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014)
http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/openings-for-amateurs/
https://www.mongoosepress.com/catalog/excerpts/openings_amateurs.pdf
Chess Endgames for Kids by Karsten Müller (2015)
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/chess-endgames-for-kids/
http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Chess_Endgames_for_Kids.pdf
A Guide to Chess Improvement by Dan Heisman (2010)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708105628/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review781.pdf
Studying Chess Made Easy by Andrew Soltis (2009)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708090448/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review750.pdf
Seirawan stuff:
http://seagaard.dk/review/eng/bo_beginner/ev_winning_chess.asp?KATID=BO&ID=BO-Beginner
http://www.nystar.com/tamarkin/review1.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627132508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen173.pdf
https://www.chess.com/article/view/book-review-winning-chess-endings
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708092617/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review560.pdf

kindaspongey

Once one has chosen openings, I think that there is wide agreement that the way to start is by playing over sample games. Some of us think that it can be useful to use books like First Steps: 1 e4 e5 and First Steps: Queen's Gambit

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7790.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7652.pdf

as sources of games with explanations intended for those just starting to learn about an opening. Be sure to try to use the openings in games in between sessions of learning. Most of the time, one faces a position with no knowledge of a specific move indicated in a book. One has to accept that as part of chess, and think of opening knowledge as a sometimes helpful aid. After a game, it makes sense to try to look up the moves in a book and see if it has some indication of how one might have played better in the opening. Many opening books are part explanation and part reference material. The reference material is included in the text with the idea that one mostly skips it on a first reading, and looks at an individual item when it applies to a game that one has just played. Resist the temptation to try to turn a book into a mass memorization project. There are many important subjects that one should not neglect because of too much time on opening study.

MickeyDeadGuys

I think an early d5 is good fighting against the c3 Sicilian.  Against Larson, just seize middle.  There you go.

bong711

I check a few of your lost games. You play

bong711

bong711 wrote:

I check a few of your lost games. You play

very passive as black. More aggression is needed. Counter attack is the best defense. Try hypermodern defenses. Or Gambit openings like Ruy Marshall, Albin Counter Gambit. The initiative is enough compensation for the sacrificed pawn.

AlisonHart

....for a guy named 'bong', you suggest a lot of un-chill openings!

that_green_boi

just do englund gambit