I don't think it will throw off white's game much at all. White will put pressure on d5 and b7 as follows:
If there are mistakes or (significant) improvements for either side then point them out and I will try to come up with a new line which refutes 2...Be6.
@ Lavarook: how about going into a transposed Slav Defense with 3...c6, then the queen can come to defend b7, the knight can develop to d7, etc.
3. Nc3 is definitely a natural choice for White's piece development, but I don't think it forces Black to respond with 3. ... Nf6. At this point, White has two attackers (knight and pawn) and Black has two defenders (bishop and queen). If Black chooses to develop the other knight and White captures right away, then we get this continuation:
Black trades off a bishop for a knight early on, but as compensation gets a centralized queen and early pressure on the d4 pawn.
Alternatively, 3. ... dxc4 seems like a sound response for black.
I thought a simple solution to this would be to play something like...
That is the easiest way yes... =) After 5...b6 6.e4 Bb7 white has a clear development advantage...
Re Conzipe: Why do you think that recapturing with the queen is a blunder? After 4. ... Qa5 or ... Qd6, we've reached positions that are similar to the Scandinavian Defense main lines.
@lavarook: 10...c6 seems to avoid immediate disater.
To answer the question: quite honestly white should have no problems at all; what's wrong with just pressuring d5, attacking b7 and letting black's pieces sit back misplaced, especially after a timely cxd5 and e4?
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Missed I something or what will Black do after 1. d4 d5 2. c4 Be6 3. Nc3 Nc6?? 4. cxd5 Bxd5 5. e4 Be6 6. d5 ?
@ Elubas c6 isn't that great either (actually at move 10 imo black is just dead lost anyways) Also, yea white shouldn't have problems at all against 2.Be6?! but my aim is to make black have problems in order to just refute Be6.
Ill go analyze 3...c6 and 3...dxc4 now
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@Conzipe, I think 3.cxd5 simplifies black's problems in this line though. Yea, you will probably get the bishop pair/light sq bishop but that bishop on e6 really gets in the way of black's development so I think keeping the tension on d5 with 3.Nc3 is slightly better. It probably really depends on black's possible alternatives to 3...Nf6 which include 3...c6 and 3...dxc4
So....I went on and analyzed 3...c6 (had to use the free version of Fritz that comes with the free CB 2009 program. Maybe someone with a better engine can come up with some better moves/analysis for both sides)
And *drumroll*,
Unfortunately, (for me lol I always hate it when something unusual doesn't get refuted) Black is actually ok in this line. At the end of the line Fritz evaluates the position as +/= 0.45 and then I wait a bit and then it goes down to +/= 0.3 :( Anyways, the position that arises is interesting though and here is the line:
So...perhaps Conzipe's 3.cxd5 can give white a better, more clear advantage (at least half a pawn hopefully...)
I did read that post but I decided to go ahead and analyze 3...c6 anyways just to see whether white can get anything more. As it doesn't appear that white can, I guess the simplest and easiest way of acquiring the center is best :)
what's wrong with just pressuring d5, attacking b7 and letting black's pieces sit back misplaced, especially after a timely cxd5 and e4?
Just sitting around and saying that the bishop on e6 is misplaced is decent to do for a while but one have to be careful about doing it for to long since black can often transpose into an interesting variation in the slav.
Which is why I think the immediate 3. cxd5 would be the easiest solution since it doesn't give black many options.
That is true, in some slav positions the bishop on e6 can be at least somewhat consistent, defending c4 after taking.
I had never seen this before, so I checked the Game Explorer to see what information I could find on it. It turns out that there aren't any master games with this position, and it's easy to see why: Black blocks in the e pawn and assigns a bishop to an awkward position for the purpose of defending a single pawn.
Although this move is clearly not the best available for Black, it's still possible that black may try to play it as a surprise to try to throw off White's game. Here are two questions: First, how can White efficiently capitalize on Black's disadvantages listed above? Knowing that your opponent's opening is bad does not necessarily imply that you actually know how to convert it into an advantage. ...Be6 doesn't leave any pieces hanging and doesn't create weaknesses in Black's pawn structure, so there doesn't appear to be a single crushing third move for White. What should White's plan be?
Second, is there any way for Black to achieve good play after these moves? Perhaps the aforementioned problems could be solved by playing ...f6 and ...Bf7, giving Black raking bishops and a respectable pawn center:
Alternatively, perhaps Black might try to exchange off the d pawn to open up the position or fianchetto the dark-squared bishop. Thoughts?