Queen's Gambit question

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xav88

I'm learning about the queen's gambit. So lets say 1.d4 d5 Then the gambit 2. c4 Heres where the first split happens in the game as all the readers know. Black either dxc4 or e6. So dxc4 is accepted and e6 is declined. Here is where I'm getting confused. So lets say black accepts I have to learn all those aproaches resulting but decline section in the book I'm reading talks of isolating the d pawn. I know this is dumb but I can't for the life of me get what its saying. "It isn’t normally recommended for Black to try to hold on to this pawn. The
basic idea is to develop rapidly and try to saddle White with an isolated
d-pawn by playing …c5 and …cxd4. The isolated d-pawn is an intriguing
structure in chess. If it can be blockaded (prevented from advancing), it may
turn into a weakness and have to be defended by pieces. Pieces don’t like
performing guard duty for pawns!" Thats what it says. If you recognize the text its from chess opening for dummies. Don't make fun of me for my choice in books lol I'm TRYING. Lastly I'm reading that notation to isolate the d pawn but its not clicking. I don't know why. 

Silfir

It's no wonder you aren't getting it; that kind of explanation is almost useless to a beginner.


I don't know the book you're using, but if it's called "Chess Openings for Dummies" and wasn't written by a complete hack, it must have gotten into general opening principles before everything else. These are:

- development (get your light pieces out first, then your queen and rooks.)

- center control (get your light pieces and pawns to control the center. Pawns can control both by occupying and threatening center squares.)

- don't lose your stuff for no reason (before you move a piece, check if it's safe)

- protect your king (get him out of the open by castling)

Don't move pawns for no reason. When in doubt, develop. If you've moved a piece already, don't move it again unless you have to.

xav88

I watched those basic chess lessons videos on here and I understand all that. Now I'm trying to get a style and stratagy. The first opening I'm trying out and thinking about using regularly is queens gambit. I'm trying to figure out what white and blacks intents are. I'm assuming if you're white you want to get a d5 pawn that causes carnage and while all this is going down(provided you developed) You mate the king when they're trying to take out all your peices from the d5 debaucle? Also does black use the gambit ever? Annnnnnnnd what would be an opening style like this for black if you can't really use this gambit well as black? I wish I could TALK to a person or have a coach. 

xav88

I'm trying to have a very "Defensive" Style. I want the other side to do whatever they want. Attack as hard as they can but because I'm pateint and plan ahead. I slowly put pressure on and then they mess up and I exploit at the last minute and win. I don't want a fast and bloody win. I want slow deliberate moves that all add up. I'm content with getting a ton of draws. I want a style similer to Tigran petrosian

Rubidium

Right now, maybe studying the Queens Gambit isn't that good for a 893. Study endgames and tactics. You can play Queen's Gambit, that's quite all right, but don't memorize variations (it doesn't do me any good). Playing a solid opening is perfect. BTW, here is a nice minature with the queen's gambit accepted: 

blake78613

Go back to page 23 in Chess for Dummies and you will learn about isolated pawns.

xav88

One other thing, what do the (notations in here mean?) 893? Is that my ranking? Also should I have a few openings or since I'm starting, study this one and work on tactics and end game?

xav88

Thank you. That is the best explination so far as to why I should start off a different way. You're right. As much as I love that style I have to be able to understand it first. I'm joining a chess club in my town and I'm playing every day against people I know and people on here. I also am trying to find info on here and in other chess books that I found on the web. And I'll probably get some books this summer.  PS we should play a game. Challenge me

Rumpelstiltskin

:D... bro, pay the $50 or $100 of membership here in chess.com and use the tactics trainer and everything else chess.com have!! 

xav88

I'm thinking about it quite seriously

Rumpelstiltskin

Yeeaah... Thats the page Xav! Chess Tempo is great! :P Thats the page i mention you in the message!

xav88

Ok sweet! Thanks guys! I'm really learning a ton on here

benonidoni
xav88 wrote:

I'm learning about the queen's gambit. So lets say 1.d4 d5 Then the gambit 2. c4 Heres where the first split happens in the game as all the readers know. Black either dxc4 or e6. So dxc4 is accepted and e6 is declined. Here is where I'm getting confused. So lets say black accepts I have to learn all those aproaches resulting but decline section in the book I'm reading talks of isolating the d pawn. I know this is dumb but I can't for the life of me get what its saying. "It isn’t normally recommended for Black to try to hold on to this pawn. The
basic idea is to develop rapidly and try to saddle White with an isolated
d-pawn by playing …c5 and …cxd4. The isolated d-pawn is an intriguing
structure in chess. If it can be blockaded (prevented from advancing), it may
turn into a weakness and have to be defended by pieces. Pieces don’t like
performing guard duty for pawns!" Thats what it says. If you recognize the text its from chess opening for dummies. Don't make fun of me for my choice in books lol I'm TRYING. Lastly I'm reading that notation to isolate the d pawn but its not clicking. I don't know why. 

How can you learn anything from these guys. First you do need openings to play chess. Second its a very good choice. Third: When learning the queens gambit there are a numerous fun chess books to read either by everyman or quality chess you would have fun with. Fourth: Blacks e pawn is a key as to the opening. e6 will be a semi slav. c6 will be a slav.

After playing 20,000 blitz games e6 is by far more popular. Also is the most popular in all the queens gambit. Keep playing the opening and when you get to the botvanikk opening (spelled wrong) check it out its a neat tactical opening for white. Good luck and ignore the wisecracks they don't know much anyhow.

xav88

Thanks for the support

xav88

What were the names of those books? I'm thinking about buying the mammoth book of chess

xav88

Yea, right now I'm learning queens gambit. But working tactics like all day, everyday.

benonidoni
 

Playing the Queen's Gambit: A Grandmaster Guide [Paperback]

Lars Schandorff (Author) This book is excellent. Check out amazon for all thats in the book. I see that don't have it but you might be able to find it somewhere else or library whatever. Covers QGA,
 
The power of the Queen's Gambit is beyond question, even though it allows some serious defences - the Slav and Semi-Slav are favoured by the elite. Kasparov was playing the Queen's Gambit Accepted until he retired, and the Queen's Gambit Declined has been trusted for a century. The principled way for White to build a repertoire after 1.d4 d5 2.c4 is to play the critical main lines. Take as much space as possible - no compromises. The Tarrasch, Chigorin, Albin and all minor lines are also met with the same vigour - this is a complete White repertoire after 1.d4 d5 2.c4.
 
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xav88

It looks perfect probably getting that and the mammoth book of chess. Even though the queens gambit book is quite expensive.

Rumpelstiltskin

4shared.com or google it in pdf or something!!

benonidoni

check out qualitychess.com and you can read a pdf sample.