Ruy Lopez vs Italian

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tigergutt

d5 break is not that good for black. it weakens e5 and if he covers the pawn with f6 he weakens kingside

trigs
tigergutt wrote:

d5 break is not that good for black. it weakens e5 and if he covers the pawn with f6 he weakens kingside


yeah, d5 really isn't that bad for white.

stwils

I started this thread so I will tell you my thoughts.

I am in 2 tourneys now for the Italian or Giuoco Piano opening. For me this is harder than the Ruy. I have to worry about the 2 knights defence and the Evans Gambit - whether I am black or white - or just unusual plays by black. I do not as yet feel secure.

I'm sticking with it. But it seems like it is much slower and less open than the
Ruy Lopez.

You can't comment on my games as they are just getting started. Maybe when they are over if you want to.

The Ruy is more exciting to me. Maybe that's just because the Italian is new now.

I feel sorry that I ever said I was tired of the Ruy.Cry

stwils

DrizztD
stwils wrote:

I started this thread so I will tell you my thoughts.

I am in 2 tourneys now for the Italian or Giuoco Piano opening. For me this is harder than the Ruy. I have to worry about the 2 knights defence and the Evans Gambit - whether I am black or white - or just unusual plays by black. I do not as yet feel secure.

I'm sticking with it. But it seems like it is much slower and less open than the
Ruy Lopez.

You can't comment on my games as they are just getting started. Maybe when they are over if you want to.

The Ruy is more exciting to me. Maybe that's just because the Italian is new now.

I feel sorry that I ever said I was tired of the Ruy.

stwils


When you said "it seems much slower" I instantly disagreed!!

But really, play whatever you want to play, and whatever you're comfortable playing.

trigs

yeah i feel italian is much faster attacking than ruy

E_Check

I feel like Ruy Lopez is more of a sound positional game and the Italian is very threatening

tigergutt
stwils wrote:

I started this thread so I will tell you my thoughts.

I am in 2 tourneys now for the Italian or Giuoco Piano opening. For me this is harder than the Ruy. I have to worry about the 2 knights defence and the Evans Gambit - whether I am black or white - or just unusual plays by black. I do not as yet feel secure.

I'm sticking with it. But it seems like it is much slower and less open than the
Ruy Lopez.

You can't comment on my games as they are just getting started. Maybe when they are over if you want to.

The Ruy is more exciting to me. Maybe that's just because the Italian is new now.

I feel sorry that I ever said I was tired of the Ruy.

stwils


which line of italian game are you playing?

stwils

I'm new at this opening, but I think I've used the two knights defence and Evans Gambit.  I'm playing Giuoco Piano as white.

stwils

tigergutt

i see. you might want to try out the giuoco pianissimo. it was always my favourite while playing 1.e4 because i got ruy lopez like positions without playing the ruy lopez but i guess its a matter of taste:) what do you play against the two knights defence? its when black moves knight to f6 instead of bishop to c5

trigs
tigergutt wrote:

i see. you might want to try out the giuoco pianissimo. it was always my favourite while playing 1.e4 because i got ruy lopez like positions without playing the ruy lopez but i guess its a matter of taste:) what do you play against the two knights defence? its when black moves knight to f6 instead of bishop to c5


1st diagram i play 4. d4 (two knights defense open variation) and sometimes 4. Ng5 (knight attack)

2nd diagram i play 4. b4 (evan`s gambit - my favorite)

DrizztD
trigs wrote:
tigergutt wrote:

i see. you might want to try out the giuoco pianissimo. it was always my favourite while playing 1.e4 because i got ruy lopez like positions without playing the ruy lopez but i guess its a matter of taste:) what do you play against the two knights defence? its when black moves knight to f6 instead of bishop to c5


1st diagram i play 4. d4 (two knights defense open variation) and sometimes 4. Ng5 (knight attack)

2nd diagram i play 4. b4 (evan`s gambit - my favorite)


Personally, I always play Ng5.

I play b4 or c3. It depends. I like the Greco Attack and Evan's Gambit.