I believe that this move is a bad one. Why not take the pawn and develop your knight with tempo? It totally fails to take advantage of the nice tempo moves against the queen, and so I don't consider it be one of White's better moves.
Scandinavian Defense - Declined?!?
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May 25, 2011
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#23
2 year bump. Just ran into this and so glad to see some analysis by the people of the kingdom!
Christian Bauer in his book "Play the Scandinavian" recommends 2.)...c5 and 2.)...Bf5 for black.2.)c5 is covered as the main move though.
May 26, 2011
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#25
After 1 e4 d5, when I am White I like to play 2 d4!?, with the possibility of playing the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit. White can also try 2 d3!?, with the idea of 2...de 3 Nc3 ed 4 Bd3, which is a Blackburne-Hartlaub Gambit with an extra tempo. There are a number of fun ways to try to take the Scandinavian player out of his/her comfort zone in the opening.
My Scandinavian usually turns into a caro-kann, but the response I see most for some reason is the line
1 e4 d5
2e5 ...and I've been pushing more c5
So while this may be rare for others, I would appreciate every ounce of input I can get. I don't know why this accounts for about 20% of my games lately, but obviously I'd like to get as much solid theory as possible from here.
Also, the Scandinavian/Caro-Kann, and even some French lines have a large number of traps in the first ten moves. Does anyone know a good book that covers them all? Or at least a large number of them?
alum2000 wrote:
Following is a link to an interesting game where e5 worked out. The little e pawn hung in there on e5 until turn 34. Looks like it took a lot of effort for white to win, though.
White looks almost Ponziani-esque with 3. c3, also black goes into the end game a pawn ahead with a bishop against a knight, so I have to think this was when black drops the ball.
Jun 10, 2011
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#28
In his book, "The Chess Opening for You," GM Larry Evans advocated playing the King's Indian Attack with white, and the King's Indian Defense and the Center Counter Defense with black. After 1 e4 d5 2 e5, Evans recommended 2...c5. He thought that 2...c5 was better than 2...Bf5 because Black would like to have his QB on g4 if White plays Nf3.
In advance french structures with the bishop outside the weak square is d4 not e4. The easy target and easy development makes these positions very comfortable. There is a related reversed line out of an english I actually had the pleasure of facing in a recent tournament.
Is it winning for white? No, it's actually a line... but holy crap it's a comfortable game to play (for me anyway).
JetSetter wrote:
Black should play 2...c5 and retain the option of getting the light square bishop out of the pawn chain. An immediate 2...e6 is a horrible move if you don't like the French (and if you're a Scandi player, why would you willingly play into a French?).
You are 100% correct. :) Black is aiming for a win after 2. ... c5!
Godspawn wrote:
I play 2...Bf5 with good results.
2....Bf5 is probably ok but 2. ...c5! is better. One reason is that really Black wants to play Bb4 if White plays Nf3. After 1. e4 d5 2. e5?? c5 I would say it may be a "won game'" for Black assuming Black then plays a "perfect game" It is really throwing away your first move advantage to move 1.e4 and 2. e5 without even attacking anything [such as in the Alekhine].
Following is a link to an interesting game where e5 worked out. The little e pawn hung in there on e5 until turn 34. Looks like it took a lot of effort for white to win, though.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1256681