Scandinavian like defences against d4 and for white

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HolyCrusader5

I have reached 1600 OTB in classical. I wanted to know what openings you would recommend for a Scandinavian (Bronstein-Larsen) player. I have experience with the Sicilian but didn't like the closed, alapin, Moscow, or other sidelines. I also have played the Grunfeld before and played the Catalan and English openings. As you can tell, I tend to prefer dynamic and mobile centers. I'd like to know what you'd think is the best opening for me as black against d4 and white in general. 

 

HolyCrusader5

I also really don't like the Alekhine, as recommended to me by ThrillerFan

ThrillerFan

Well then, you really don't know what you are looking for then,  The Grunfeld and Alekhine are the kings of the Mobile Center, and so clearly if the Grunfeld and Alekhine are not for you, then clearly you are not after a mobile center setup.

 

Also, what are you doing with a second account?  That's against policy here and your accounts should be shut down if you have two accounts!

 

Of the 5 primary types of Pawn Centers (Closed, Mobile, Static, Open, and Dynamic), the first two have very specific openings that lead to them far more often than not, and those are the Closed and Mobile Centers.

 

Closed Center:  French (though the Exchange tends to lead to the Static Center), King's Indian, and Czech Benoni.

 

Mobile Center:  Alekhine and Grunfeld

 

The other three have far more possibilities, like the Static center can come from many exchange lines (Exchange QGD, Exchange Slav), while the Open Center is common in the Berlin, Petroff, Etc, while the dynamic center can come from a whole array of openings.

 

The fact that I'm a French and King's Indian player as Black should clearly show which type of center I favor.

HolyCrusader5

 

DrSpudnik

The reason there is no Skandinavian Defense like system for Black against d4 is that after e4 the poor King pawn is out there unguarded. After d4, there is no threat that is all that serious that can be posed to the d-pawn. 1...e4 gambits a pawn and 1...c5 is likely to get the static 2. d5 in response, heading into Ben-Oni territory.  At best, I'd recommend the QGA, that is, considering white wants to play the QGD when he starts out. Some do not follow up with 2. c4 and now you're in a new world entirely. There is no magic bullet that will allow you to avoid learning a bunch of various opening ideas.

ThrillerFan
DrSpudnik wrote:

The reason there is no Skandinavian Defense like system for Black against d4 is that after e4 the poor King pawn is out there unguarded. After d4, there is no threat that is all that serious that can be posed to the d-pawn. 1...e4 gambits a pawn and 1...c5 is likely to get the static 2. d5 in response, heading into Ben-Oni territory.  At best, I'd recommend the QGA, that is, considering white wants to play the QGD when he starts out. Some do not follow up with 2. c4 and now you're in a new world entirely. There is no magic bullet that will allow you to avoid learning a bunch of various opening ideas.

 

That sure is a really bold assumption that White hates the QGA.  Some may find it easier to face than the QGD.

It is just like moronic assumptions people make about the Sicilian.  You know why I do not play the Sicilian regularly?  3.d4!  The anti-Sicilians are as joke!

 

You know what happens when you ASSuME, right?

HolyCrusader5

Actually, i don't like the closed sicilian at all (but you would) (:

DrSpudnik
ThrillerFan wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:

The reason there is no Skandinavian Defense like system for Black against d4 is that after e4 the poor King pawn is out there unguarded. After d4, there is no threat that is all that serious that can be posed to the d-pawn. 1...e4 gambits a pawn and 1...c5 is likely to get the static 2. d5 in response, heading into Ben-Oni territory.  At best, I'd recommend the QGA, that is, considering white wants to play the QGD when he starts out. Some do not follow up with 2. c4 and now you're in a new world entirely. There is no magic bullet that will allow you to avoid learning a bunch of various opening ideas.

 

That sure is a really bold assumption that White hates the QGA.  Some may find it easier to face than the QGD.

It is just like moronic assumptions people make about the Sicilian.  You know why I do not play the Sicilian regularly?  3.d4!  The anti-Sicilians are as joke!

 

You know what happens when you ASSuME, right?

No. I didn't assume that White hates the QGA. I recommended the QGA, because it's a little more active on the Black side and simpler to learn than a number of QGD lines that White can choose from. The problem is that some White players won't play 2. c4, so no QGA. Maybe my syntax wasn't clear.

WCPetrosian

Don't know if this repertoire will interest you, but I'm playing the 2...Nf6 Scandinavian (Smerdon's repertoire book) and the Tarrasch Defense against 1 d4 (Kotronias repertoire book). The Tarrasch Defense is not the Scandinavian but both seek to rock the boat quickly with countering play. With the white pieces I'm playing a bit more solid, using the Keep It Simple 1 e4 repertoire book by Sielecki.