Scholar's Mate

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sangyk

 This is one variation of the Scholar's mate.

PawnFork
Why?  It's just plain bad.
AnnoR88
if you can perform this mate, you should search for better opponents ;)
sangyk

It's just plain but, people can make much mistake for the simple thing.

I think it's not so bad to review the simple thing again.

spivey
sangyk wrote:

It's just plain but, people can make much mistake for the simple thing.

I think it's not so bad to review the simple thing again.


 In a basic book, this mate was presented as a sneaky trick inexperienced players fall for, so for those less experienced, it's good to know. :-)


Graw81
sangyk wrote:

It's just plain but, people can make much mistake for the simple thing.

I think it's not so bad to review the simple thing again.


 I agree, chess.com is for players of all levels so reviewing the simpler things is a good idea. Sometimes we can forget about players who have just started learning.


omnipaul
Actually, the reason to study/review such basic mates is for thematic reasons.  I may never be able to pull off a scholar's mate against an experienced opponent, but the threat of such a mate in the middle-game may give me a benefit elsewhere.
Apoapsis

Why not to try this competitively:


smsjr723
if you brought your queen out...and someone counters with knights... i think it'd be better to leave the queen liquid and retreat/defend with her...as opposed to bringing out the second knight as the develope/defend move(5 Nc3)... i mean, if your early mate gimick didn't work, you should assume they're looking to capitalize on your wasted move retreating your queen.
bastiaan

this is how I opened when I started playing. (wins the rook + position)

about half of the players responded like this.

(yeah, I know I was young) 


Graw81
omnipaul wrote: Actually, the reason to study/review such basic mates is for thematic reasons.  I may never be able to pull off a scholar's mate against an experienced opponent, but the threat of such a mate in the middle-game may give me a benefit elsewhere.

 Well pointed out! The weak points f2/f7 are discussed in 'The art of attack'.


KingLeopold
Try this one:

jmkark

I'm so tired of those players who try this everytime.... bring out their Q and then they are amazed how it didn't work out and they don't have any other plan (probably just move their Q around the board rest of the game).

Michahellis

As someone very new(yet quite ambitious) to chess, threads like this are very useful to me.A conglomeration of various f7 attacks all in one thread. I'm working on being a solid positional player and I'm not ashamed to say that these types of attacks did work on me,but usually don't anymore.

I played a guy who used these types of attacks and did so relentlessly.Initially, I got frustrated and would make a silly mistake and he would have the upper hand.However, I studied up on the situation and just became more aware poitionally and now, I'm beat him 4 of the last 5 games.

Anyway, just wanted to thank those who have contributed and state that even though this is basic information for many there are many people who can learn a great deal from threads such as these.

GothamChessSubscriber1478

There is this for black...

SHAIUKA2023

Bad opening 😔😔😔😔

GothamChessSubscriber1478

for white or black?

ThrillerFan
GothamChessSubscriber1478 wrote:

for white or black?

Both!

White for even trying it. 3.Qh5?

Black for allowing it. 3...Nf6?? (3...g6 -/+)

After 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nc6 3.Qh5 g6 4.Qf3 Nf6, Black has a clear advantage.

Chessflyfisher
sangyk wrote:

It's just plain but, people can make much mistake for the simple thing.

I think it's not so bad to review the simple thing again.

Please stop wasting our time I beg of you!

GothamChessSubscriber1478

Cool I got this from a Igor Smirnov chess video if you want to check it out. He's a grandmaster.