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antne003

DEAR  MEMBERS

I am  looking  for  any  member  who  has had  good experiences  with  the

scotch  game  or  colle  systems  and  which  one you  prefer and  why?

also  looking for  a  place  i  can get  the  most free information on  these  openings,  i am  a  above  beginner  player,  but am no  great  player  by  any means,  I became  again  interested  in  chess again  due to  a  stroke  i had

and i  am  getting  hooked on it  even  though,  the  openings  are confusing to me,  I belong to  a  local club and  know opening  basics,  however i am

facinated  about them  and looking for one that  has  fast  developement like  the  colle-zukertort and  the  pawn  protection of  the  stonewall?

 

I FEEL  THIS  WOULD  BE THE  BEST  FORUM  TO  ASK  MY QUESTIONS.

many  tell me to stick to one opening  even though i lose in order  to find

your  mistakes(but  which opening?)

 

                    THANKS   TONY  antne003@verizon.net

chessman_calum

I have no good expeireince of the scotch game or the colle opening but if you go on wikipedia and type in scotch game or colle opening it gives you all the moves, counters, and some of history and GM's have played it! Hope I helped.

Regards, Calum.

antne003

CALUM,  THANKS  FOR  YOUR  RESPONSE, I WILL CHECK      TONY

gibberishlwmetlkwn

Glad to hear you're finding a way to cope with that stroke!  I find videos a pretty darned good way of learning anything, here's a list of results on the YouTube I got from querying "chess scotch game opening".

chessman_calum

thanks, how did it go Tony?

Calum

antne003

PHOTRAY  AND  CALUM  ,  THANKS FOR  YOUR  COMMENTS,  I  WILL KEEP  ON TRYING TO  BETTWER  MY  CHESS.

 

AS  FAR AS  THE STROKE  MY LEG IS IMPROVING, HOWEVER MY  ARM  AND HAND ARE  ABOUT  THE  SAME, EVEN  THOUGH  I'M SWIMING ABOVE  UNDER  WATER  PRETTY  GOOD.  I HAVE A GOOD  FRIEND FROM  PHILLIPINES  AND ONE FROM  FLORIDA THAT ARE  HELPING ME  A LOT

 

ALONG WITH YOU  GUYS, I  SHOULD PROGRESS IN  MY CHESS GAME  EVENTUALLY

 

                                     THANKS  TONY

chessman_calum

Are you disabled, if you don't mind answering ant?

chessman_calum

and why do you always write in caps?

KillaBeez

The Colle is a rather unambitious opening that only works against certain setups.  It stinks vs the KID.  So lots of people combine it with the Boring System (it is really boring).  I think highly of the Scotch and think it gives a good chance for an advantage for White.  Be sure to research some of the lines like exd4 Nxd4 Qh4 or else they might throw you for a loop.  I wouldn't play the Colle, although it is perfectly fine.

antne003

I'M  ONLY DISABLED IN SO FAR  AS  MY  LEFT  HAND  CANNOT  OPEN

HOWEVER  MY  WALKING IS GETTING BETTER  AND I NOW  WALK MOST  OF MY TIME  WITHOUT  MY  CANE

 

THANKS  FOPR  ASKING,  IN  MEXICO  TWO YEARS  AGO, I ATTENDED  A  WEDDING ON THE  BEACH    FOR  A COUPLE  FROM  ENGLAND,  HE WAS  INTO  SOCCER  AND  HIS  TIME WAS  PLAYING  SPAIN  FOR  THE  CHAMPIONSHIP, I FORGET  WHERE  HE WAS  FROM  , BUT HIS NAME WAS  DAVID  AND DID  TILE  WORK  FOR  A LIVING

 

THANKS  FOPR  ASKING   TONY FROM  NEW  JERSEY  SHORE, USA

antne003

calum,  i write  in  caps, not  meaning  disrepect or  yelling, i just had  a habit  of  using  it because i figured it would be easier  to  read,  thanks  for  your  response     tony

KILLABEEZ,   I  LIKE  YOUR  COMMENTS,  I  PLAYED  THE  COLLE  BECAUSE A COUPLE  OF FRIENDS  WHO PLAYED  IT  WERE  HAPPY  AS  IT GAVE  YOU  FAST  DEVELOPEMENT,  BUT I LIKE THE  P5ROTECTION OF A  PAWN STRUCTURE  LIKE THE STONEWALL ADDED  TO  IT.

THE  SCOTCH I PLAYED  PRIOR TO  THE  COLLE,  CAN  YOU  SEND  ME LINKS TO  SOME  GOOD FREE ARTICLES ON THE  SCOTCH AS I ALWAYS  DID LIKE IT

AND WHO  WAS THE BEST  PLAYER  NOTED FOR  PLAYING IT  (OTHER  THEN KASPAROV AGAINST  KARPOV IN  THE  1990 CHAMPIONSHIP OR WAS IT  1991

MY  EMAIL  IS  antne003@verizon.net,  i'm  just  trying  to improve my game since my  stroke,    , bill wall is  giving me  some constructive  criticism, but

i still give  away  pieces,  i  gather  you  have the nickname of  the  kid

WELL I AM  HAPPY TO  GET  YOUR  ADVICE,  WISH I  COULD STAY IN  CONTACT  FOR ANY  CHESS ADVICE  YOU CAN  GIVE ME.   THANKS            TONY 

KillaBeez

No problem.  The Colle is rather easy to learn and is quite solid, but I don't think it gives White a big try for an advantage.  Maybe a minute one, but definitely not one somebody of our caliber could win a game with.  I will try to get some links on the Scotch.  Hope that helps! Smile

RyanMK

I play the scotch fairly often and I like it. I think it can lead to some good opportunities for white.

rush40

chess games .com has plenty of games to look at in any openings

antne003

calum,  killabeez and  other  members,  i  knew  i  would get  some  help  if  i  asked, my  chess club  host  keeps saying  develope, develope , develope

how  many times  am i attack  and how  many times  can i defend

don't move  same piece twice in the  opening  and  don't  attack until developed  and  king  castled and safe,  I ADMIRE  HIM, HE IS OLDER THEN ME, BUT YEARS  PLAYING CHESS

                             THANKS  AGAIN  ALL OF  YOU               TONY  SOLIS

transpositions

Hi antne003,

Take a look at this site:   

This first is long but very good or refresher.  I assure you that both the Colle and the Scotch are discussed on this site.

      http://chesskids.com/grownups/openings.pdf

Antne(Tony) in Philly I'm known as "Antonooch"

To my sister whom I annoyed during our childhood I became known as "Agony"

I hope the site helps.

BillyIdle

Used copies of WINNING CHESS TRAPS, by Irving Chernev are very cheap paperbacks online from Powell's Books.  They mail it out to you in the USA.

I would recommend you buy this book and play The Cambridge Springs Defense (whenever possible) against 1. P-Q4 (or 1. d4).  You find it in Chernev under The Queen's Gambit Declined section.  Also look at the Queen's Gambit Accepted in Chernev.  It is easy to play, just develop your pieces as fast as possible and you should not have any trouble playing the QGA.  The Cambridge Springs Defense probably has more traps than any opening in chess.  If you are playing a Colle or a Stonewall make your first two moves (for White) d4 and then e3.  I personally prefer (1. f4) and the Leningrad Dutch Reversed (which can transpose into the Grand Prix variation of the Sicilian Defense).  In this forum I have recommended the Nimzovitch Defense for beginner/intermediates.  It is a KP defense.  In an early book by Hooper he recommended the QGA and the Petroff Defense (also called the Russian Defence) for beginners to start out with.  Some Russian masters adopted it, but Petroff was actually a Latvian.  The former world champion, Mikhail Botvinnik, often played the Dutch Stonewall early in his career with the Black pieces.  You might want to find a few of his old games with it in the 1930's and 1940's.    

antne003

 BILLYIDLE, I THANK YOU GREATLY, I'M WILLINGLY TO TRY  ANYTHING THAT MIGHT GET A GOOD SOLID OPENING FOR ME TO CONCENTRATE ON.

BUT THE  CAMBRIDGE IS A DEFENSE, SO I CAN'T USE IT FOR WHITE?

antne003

thank you  all,  youve  been great          tony  antne003

gibberishlwmetlkwn

Have things been improving for you Tony? - physically, and chessically ;D - if that's a word.

Have you been trying out that Scotch opening now?