Sicilian Variation e4 c5 Nf3 e6 - Chess Forums - Page 2

The move has received several names, as a rule if black follows Nxd4 with Nc6 it is considered to be a Taimanov and if black follows with a6 instead it is called a Kan. But these two often transpose into each other so it is not clear. I like to refer to the whole e6 sicilian as the Paulsen Sicilian but that term isn't universal.

That's what the Explorer has after a6 or Nc6 also. It switches the name to either the Kan or Taimanov.

After 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 it leads often to a Svwetnikov or accelerated Dragon. Or Rossolimo.

After 1.e4 c5 2,Nf3 d6 we will seem mostly a Najdorf a Dragon or a CLaslical Sicilian.

Anf finaly after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 it leasts often to a Taimanov or a Kan variation

And 1.e4 c5 2,Nf3 a6 is the O Kelly variation.

I mostly named it the Taimanov variation. Except when it tranferce to for example a Kan variation or an other variation. Paulen also will do.

Dlg44

Feb 14, 2019

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#25

Thanks for replies and the links. Looks like its flexible and can transpose to other variations since its a very early move. Just was confused cos for me in a game explorer it showed name as B41 : Accelerated Wimpy Var (for e4 c5 Nf3 e6 d4 cxd4) and I couldn't find any info about this on net.

jbolden1517

Feb 14, 2019

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#26

FWIW I think this move order: 1 e4 e6 2 Nf3 c5 is called the French Sicilian / French Variation of the Sicilian since black intended the French and didn't get d4. I suspect that's where the name came from since 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 e6 is just a transposition.

baddogno

Feb 15, 2019

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#27

jbolden1517 wrote:

FWIW I think this move order: 1 e4 e6 2 Nf3 c5 is called the French Sicilian / French Variation of the Sicilian since black intended the French and didn't get d4. I suspect that's where the name came from since 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 e6 is just a transposition.

That certainly makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

ValueTown8

Mar 16, 2020

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#28

LionVanHalen wrote:

this variation is the french sicilian, But... will very usual transpose unto another line such as kan, taimanov or scheveningen... or even a proper french defence.

Having to teach this to a pair of IM player is surprising... maybe get some opening lessons?!

ValueTown8

Mar 16, 2020

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#29

This player went on to close his account immediately after losing a rapid game to a 1200...most likely to concentrate on his new book "chess openings for IM's"

Laskersnephew

Mar 16, 2020

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#30

I've never heard of the "French Sicilian," I've never read about it, and I've never heard any good player refer to it. No matter what the Chess.com Opening Explorer says, it's just a silly, made-up name. At this point it is possible for Black to transpose into at least 3 well-established systems.

kindaspongey

Mar 17, 2020

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#31

I have the feeling that I have seen "French Sicilian" somewhere, but I do not remember where. In a 2008 book, GM John Emms mentioned that

"is very similar to (and can transpose to) the French Tarrasch."

SwimmerBill

Mar 17, 2020

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#32

I really admire everyone's restraint in not explaining "French Variation" by linking it to some crude, insulting and stereotypical joke that non-French make about the French. [And similarly for "English opening" and other opportunities for combining low humor with insulting a whole country]

nighteyes1234

Mar 17, 2020

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#33

SwimmerBill wrote:

I really admire everyone's restraint in not explaining "French Variation" by linking it to some crude, insulting and stereotypical joke that non-French make about the French. [And similarly for "English opening" and other opportunities for combining low humor with insulting a whole country]

Its rather obvious that the two being one is ridiculous.

kindaspongey

Mar 17, 2020

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#34

As far as I know, nobody is in charge of opening names, and the history seems to me to be full of accidents without rules. One can try insulting those that use language that one does not like, but my experience is that insults tend to have limited effect. This sort of issue has come up before. A similar discussion took place at:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/sicilian-defense-closed-variation-3?page=2

(Whether or not the Closed Sicilian was defined by 1 e4 c5 2 Nc3.)

If I remember correctly, there was another argument over whether or not the Smith-Moira was defined by 1 e4 c5 2 d4.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/why-is-the-smith-morra-called-a-gambit

At https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-analysis/followed-opening-principles-still-lost-unsure-what-i-did-wrong?page=2

the discussion briefly became one over whether or not 1 e4 g6 was the Modern Defense.

I think that the main culprit is computer software that has somewhat simplified opening terminology, changing it from the way that it has been viewed by many. Computer sources are apt to simplify and approximate actual human usage because it is pretty hard for computers to duplicate it. Although nobody is an appointed terminology authority, titled players are more apt to have an idea about what helps to convey important chess concepts to each other. Since they are also the ones who do most of the chess writing, it seems to me that it might be sensible to try to be in tune with the way they use language. Based on what I have observed, "French Sicilian" does not seem to be commonly used in books.