Stonewall Defense- Counter Attack

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cageness2000

Hey guys! I was wondering if this was a good counter attack to the stonewall defense:

I trade my worse bishop in the end for his knight and trade my knight for his better bishop. Push forward and broke his pawn chain. he then just crumbled

This is a game I played with the first board in my school. I was wondering if it was just a fluke or a good defense.

cageness2000

Thank you. Why I played some of the moves I did was because I new before the game what opening he was playing. I normally play the sicilian is there any way I can convert that to defend against the stonewall?

TwoMove

Countering his stonewall, with another stonewall didn't seem that bad an idea. (Switching  move order with e6 and f5 might be better in case he decides against f4). I only wonder how you manged to exchange your bad bishop for a knight. Once you managed that trick you were doing very well, assuming no other major damage to your position.

tmkroll

Yes, the first comments seem hypercritcal. There's nothing wrong this with this setup except maybe you can do better with a plan like c5 if you'd prefer. Bd7 certainly doesn't deserve a ?!. If White doesn't take it, you can play it to e8 and h5 after castling which is always a good plan in the stonewall. I get Dodgernation's points that perhaps other plans are better, but I don't think your play was bad at all.

JGambit

your defense was good. and most importantly you seem to know what you want to do. exchange off bad bishop etc etc

Bunny_Slippers_

I play the Stonewall as white and the Dutch as black all the time. It turns out the Dutch is a decent defence to the Stonewall and actually a bit annoying for white. It's difficult for either side to get around the logjam of pawns in the middle. The bishops for both sides are going to be constrained ( pushing the c pawn as a break out at the right time is a good plan ), but don't worry if he wants to trade his excellent forward N for your cramped bad bishop...you weren't using it anyways ( yet )! 

This means the play has to go kingside or queenside and the closed centre  usually means castling K side since the centre is all bunged up. Sometimes you can get pushy on the Q side to draw heat over there and then engineer a quick attack over against the castled King.

TwoMove

4...Bb4ch in that dutch line is quite playable. 5Nc3 leads to two bishops versus pawn structure type play, typical in NimzoIndian. 5Bd2 it can be quite useful to exchange bishops and play for d6then e5. There was a famous Alekhine game there. If white wants can avoid this line with delaying c4.

cornbeefhashvili
I usually play a King's Indian setup against he Stonewall:
 
Bunny_Slippers_

cornbeefhashvili wrote:
I usually play a King's Indian setup against he Stonewall:
 
 
cageness2000

"I know your rating isn't very high" (XPLAYERJX) This is my officail rating on the uscf, I played when I was six. I've beaten some 1800,1500, and 1200's.

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