Switching from Scandinavian(Qd8) to French defence, what to expect !?

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ESP-918

Especially against higher rated players OTB chess.

ESP-918

"French defense" 

nighteyes1234

You are going to be winning all the time now. You arent going to know what to do with all the winning.

You just throw down that pawn to e6 and thus let them know the French are coming.

 

ESP-918

🔞 please!  

I'm looking for a professional answers only regarding chess . 

4rcane

Would recommend not playing the French. If white knows what he's doing in the 3. Nc3 lines, he can get a pretty safe advantage.

 

Imo, 1...e5 and 1...c5 are the only good moves against 1. e4. Caro-Kann and French make white's game way too easy.

ESP-918
pfren wrote:

You can play it safe and quiet (Rubinstein), or very sharp (poisoned pawn, Nf6 Tarrasch), or somewhere between (Steinitz and ...c5 Tarrasch). The French gives many choices.

But of course it needs much more studying than the ...Qd8 Scandi, which is effectively one and a half pawn structure.

What exactly do you mean by one and a half pawn structure?  

Do you think it's a good idea switch to French and learn French of course against higher rated players or is it better stick to Scandi d8 line and polish theory on it even more 

OR  forget both and start learning caro kann ?  

I mean if playing higher rated players is it really good idea to play open highly tactical lines like sicilian stuff?  Surely they will outplay you in a open space with high tactics involves, so maybe closed, positional games gives better chances?  What do you think?  

French , Scandi (d8) or Caro kann? 

blueemu
ESP-918 wrote:

I mean if playing higher rated players is it really good idea to play open highly tactical lines like sicilian stuff?  Surely they will outplay you in a open space with high tactics involves, so maybe closed, positional games gives better chances?  What do you think? 

Which would you feel is more important... winning games even if you learn relatively little from them, or learning a lot even if it costs you some painful losses?

LionVanHalen

Defence is UK... Defense is US. Both are accepted. 

French is an acquired taste... a bit like the KID in that, if you going to play the opening... you have to put aside a lot of study.

advenedizo

You keep changing openings, wasn't the scandi good enough up there? I suppose there must be something hidden that is why GMs play the Caro and not the Scandi. 

 

I played the French for 20 years and I abandoned it because I was suffering against low rated players. I switched to e5, but I know you do not want that, and unless the opponent makes a mistake I suffer to gain an advantage. If I had another live I would learn the Najdorf.

ESP-918
advenedizo wrote:

You keep changing openings, wasn't the scandi good enough up there? I suppose there must be something hidden that is why GMs play the Caro and not the Scandi. 

 

I played the French for 20 years and I abandoned it because I was suffering against low rated players. I switched to e5, but I know you do not want that, and unless the opponent makes a mistake I suffer to gain an advantage. If I had another live I would learn the Najdorf.

No Scandi is very good, I'm actually having good results with it John Bartholomew as well.

But I'm just still learning and experiencing openings , that normal , before you know them all you should play them all. 

So far I've played c5, e5, and now scandi 

ThrillerFan

ESP-918 - The French is far more sound than the 3...Qd8 line of the Scandinavian, but with it comes more theory.

I would recommend the following course of study (looking at them all together, not a linear process of one then the next):

1) Subscribe to section 2 of chesspublishing.com.  Many thoroughly annotated French games by GMs.

2) Study the French games played by Botvinnik, Korchnoi, Uhlmann, and Glek.

3) Go to www.charlottechesscenter.org, click on Blog, and go back as far as March 2018, and read through the 18 articles titled "The French Connection" going all the way to current time as more will be published.

 

The first will give you theory and games played by modern GMs.  The second will give you some history on the French by GMs, and the third will show you what amateurs rated around 1800 to 2200 tend to do and typical errors you will see and want to avoid yourself at the amateur level.  I want to say 16 of the 18 articles feature games by amateurs.

 

This will take a good amount of time, but in the end it should pay off.

LionVanHalen

If you are casual player, stick with scandi... if you have aspiration for 2k or whatever, go with French.

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