tactical answer to 1.d4?

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64_block_square

we all know that 1.d4 leads to more positional game, but how can black change it?how can black counter it to make it a tactical game?

AtahanT

1. ... f5

Dutch defence.

checkmateisnear

If white is determined to keep it positional you can't really get a tactical game.

AtahanT
checkmateisnear wrote:

If white is determined to keep it positional you can't really get a tactical game.


 How do you keep 1. d4 f5 positional as white?

checkmateisnear

simple

or
for leningrad
AtahanT

That's my point. The leningrad variation is not positional.

johnkorean

Why does it matter if a position is classified positional or tactical? Isn't it better to classify positions as either "positions I suck at" or "positions I don't suck at"?

mathijs

Johnkorean, both classifications are intimately related. For me for instance, the set of all positions I suck at is the union of the set of positional positions and the set of tactical positions, whereas the set of all positions I don't suck at is it's respective intersection.

AtahanT
johnkorean wrote:

Why does it matter if a position is classified positional or tactical? Isn't it better to classify positions as either "positions I suck at" or "positions I don't suck at"?


 Well, there is no way around this. No matter what opening you play you will suck if you do not understand strategy AND tactics. You can't depend on just one of them. Even in more tactical openings you need to understand where the pieces go and long term attacking plans. Even if your opening is very closed and positional it will at some point open up and become a tactical position later in the game.

This thread is about players that play the black pieces against 1.d4 that want to deny white a more slow and strategical opening game to a large degree. It has nothing to do with being good or bad at one or the other. A good chess player will need to understand both to be good.

southpawsam

The Dutch

The cool thing about the dutch is you have options within the dutch. I think the Classical Dutch is the best (because it is a little more solid than the Leningrad), the Leningrad, and the the Stonewall. Here is an example of all of them

Summum_Malum
mathijs wrote:

Johnkorean, both classifications are intimately related. For me for instance, the set of all positions I suck at is the union of the set of positional positions and the set of tactical positions, whereas the set of all positions I don't suck at is it's respective intersection.


 LMAO!!! =) ..

checkmateisnear
AtahanT

Uhm your point being what? Every position in chess has a positional evaluation. By your logic all positions are positional. GG.

checkmateisnear

In that line there are very little tactics its manouvering pieces to better squares preparing for the final blow

checkmateisnear

Your best bet for a sharp position would probably be the benoni.

skyhighx-x

its so fun raping dutch players

Itob

If you want a tactical game against 1.d4 why not try the volgagambit (or benkögambit). Or you could try to steer the game into a Gruenfeld.

Btw my first post on chess.com

Natalia_Pogonina

Dutch, Benko, Gruenfeld...

Itob

You see! The great Mrs Pogonina agrees with me.

64_block_square

thanks guys haha it really helps me a lot. Now, i have too study dutch, gruenfield and other possible variations in the benko gambit. I think i will also have to improve my positional gaming as well..