After listening from many players about the success of black by playing it, I tried it but found one of my opponents playing this 3.f4, I didnt get what to do ahead. and got to a conclusion that black have a bad position over here. Will anyone please let me know the other possibilities after this f4 which might help black?

is one of them 3.Nf3 ?

thanx pfren for the advice, but i found myself worst when i see white with 1.d4, can you suggest me the best opening against d4?

alright, thank you! will practice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FO2cIlD9Rs  i found it over here!

Yes, I think if black knew white would play f4 then black might go for the Englund.

so gambitlover says englund gambit a good opening but pfren is against it. what's the final call? good or bad? maybe it can be decided by a match? cant it be?

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 is a LOT sounder and unrefuted

One of the better things that can be said about this gambit is that it will surely develop your fighting skills! Also, once you change from this opening to a different one, you will only see improvement!

I don't think there's anything wrong with 1.f4. I think that my great score against it is solely due to selection bias.

 thx 4 posting

(too druvvv)

the englund is basically one of those offbeat openings that the 

new stronger computer have put out of business. I you are looking 

for something that is sound but still offers sharp play against 1.d4

try the Ng4 lines of the budapest gambit> Some of the endgames

that black gets are not that great, but overall it is a sound opening.

You could also try the slav too, there are alot of sharp lines but

you will prob have too book up on that one. But with a decent 

program that comes with a database u should do allright with it.

later

goommba88

In past i tested Fajarowicz gambit,   1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ne4 . It´s similar to Budapest. The problem is the line  4. Nd2 . 

Budapest Gambit is very known and u need a good memory to remember all the lines.  I never found it useful .   

Against 1.d4 the tactical players will always problems to open the board.  1...e5 is the single solution .

Anyway , at moment i played about  500 games with englund and nobody played me the critical line with 8. Nd5 .  So is profitable play this line. 

@jurassicmc

I thought the problem line in the Fajarowicz was 4.a3 followed by 5.Qc2.

What do you mean by "the critical line with 8.Nd5".

The 1...e5? move is weak.  After 2.dxe5,f6 (one variation) 3.e4 and the pawn cannot be take because of 4.Qh5+ 3...Nc6 4.Nf3,fxe5 5.Bc4 and it is now white who is ahead in development and ready to castle.  5...Nf6 6.0-0,Nxe4 7.Re1,Nf6 8.Nxe5,Nxe5 9.Rxe5+,Be7 10.Bg5 and white is simply winning, although I doubt I gave a perfect line the moves look reasonable enough, though black is losing due to his lag in development, inability to castle, and white's greatly superior activity. 

zilbermints variation 3. Nge7 probably is stronger than the classic 3...Qe7 . In slow games 2200+ oponnents i suppose is more profitable.  

Positionally is easy to "refute" Englund Gambit 3...Qe7 with 4.Nc3

This hurts in slow games  . You can see as the queen is in a wrong square!! 

@jurassicmc Your previous message is exactly how I approached this tournament:

http://www.chess.com/tournament/englund-gambit---open

I went into the tournament with an idea as to how I wanted to play and chose the 3...Nge7 line. But in this game:

http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=8568311

I was basically losing right out of the opening.

the fajarowicz is nothing like the budapest, where black gets back the pawn with an equal pos