The Fried Liver Attack

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DavidJMarsh

This is a very good opening for White. White can force Black to move his king, before he castles. It's quite risky, because you can easily make a big mistake.

Here it is

kiwi-inactive

I'm still not a huge fan of the fried liver attack, stronger players ~1500+ have no issue dismantling or disrupting whites development. With the open files it is begging for the black rooks to take to the centre. Personally I don't feel comfortable with giving too much early control of the centre to black.

DavidJMarsh

This is a beginners version of the fried liver attack

CT_brizzy

The main line still continues after 8.Be2 with... h6 9. Nf3 e4 10. Ne5 and now Black has a few choices of either Bd6 Bc5 Qd4 or Qc2

clunney

Most people play 8. Bd3!, when (according to Gambit Busters) White has many ways to an edge.  The Two-Knights is dying...

Mainline_Novelty
clunney wrote:

Most people play 8. Bd3!, when (according to Gambit Busters) White has many ways to an edge.  The Two-Knights is dying...

From what I've seen, 8...Ng4!? leads to a long forcing line which is dead equal... 8...Nd5 gives good practical compensation also.

tmkroll

Minor points.

The Fried Liver is: 5... Nxd5 6. Nxf7 

5... Na5 avoids the Fried Liver. 

also 4... d5 is not forced.

913Glorax12
pfren wrote:

4...d5 5.ed5 Na5! (the only really good move) 6.Bb5+ Bd7!? 7. Qe2 Be7! is actually a nice way to avoid long theoretical lines and "play chess". Black has adequate compensation in all lines, with little homework to be done.

The "long forcing line" after 8...Ng4 is supposed to be this, right?

 

It looks to me that white has decent winning chances.

10...Nd5 is a better move, and objectively equal. However, it's not easy to play, especially with Black, and certainly a no-no without thourough homework.

.....You want me to simplify that even more? Ok!


913Glorax12
pfren wrote:

 

913Glorax12
pfren wrote:

@ 913Glorax12: Are you really that dumb, or you just do it on purpose, as a lame trolling attempt?

I strongly believe the latter- heck, really FEW people are that dumb...

What? You don't like grumpy cat?

spikestars

Most pe


ople try to avoid fried liver attack by playing h6 and being behind in development. I also have a novelty idea which popped up against me by a chess.com computer where 1. e4e52. Nf3Nc63. Bc4Nf64. Ng5d55. exd5 b5!


I think this gives black very good fighting chances if white plays carelessly

Ziryab

In my opinion, the Fried Liver is a draw with best play. However, it is very easy to err, especially on the Black side.

I've been successful on the Black side of the Fried Liver against strong opponents in correspondence chess. In OTB competition, I would play 5...Na5 as given by pfren (post #8).

Accurate defense is one thing when you can spend many hours stretched over several days to find the critical move. It's another thing when you have two hours for the whole game. 

tmkroll

Spikestars 5... b5 is the Ulvestad Variation. IMO it deserves at least a "!?", certainly not a "?!" It's not a bad move. White's only good response is actually 6. Bf1 but it's very hard to find unless you actually know the line. After 6. Be2 Nd4 White wishes s/he'd picked a different Bishop retreat. (Don't trust engine analysis in the opening... engines use opening books written by humans when they play because their opening play is still not good on its own.)

Of course again this is not the Fried Liver Attack. Neither is the Na5 stuff. LuisGruezo's question is a bit closer to on topic as the choice to play the Freid Liver or Lolli is up to the first player... I've always hear the Lolli was even better for White... but there's probably someone somewhere with a line figured out to escape the difficulties?