The Perfect Opening

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Musikamole

This starts out like the four knights opening. What opening does this most look like and what would White's next best move to make? Is there an opening that has both the d and e pawns pushed two squares sometime in the opening for both Black and White? If not, why?

"The following diagram shows a powerful setup for all of white's pieces. You are unlikely to achieve such a fine position against a strong opponent, but it is very useful to have a plan! "

This ideal position for White is from Chess is Fun: http://www.princeton.edu/~jedwards/cif/intro.html

TheWontrob

The reason I doubt you would see this is because after 1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5!? white can play 3. dxe5, and if black responds with 3... dxe4 you get 4. Qxd8 Kxd8 and black losing his castling privvies and probably a tempo or two from open file checks. In other words, 2... d5 is not good for black. IMO

Krish30

wontronb hes talking about the position chess players strive to reach in other word this is just to show us the best place ment of the pieces pretend black isntr their or the other way around

h777

Black is copying whites every move! and white made some bad moves.

Musikamole
TheWontrob wrote:

The reason I doubt you would see this is because after 1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5!? white can play 3. dxe5, and if black responds with 3... dxe4 you get 4. Qxd8 Kxd8 and black losing his castling privvies and probably a tempo or two from open file checks. In other words, 2... d5 is not good for black. IMO


Very good call on Qxd8 Kxd8 and the loss of Black's ability to castle. Here's what Chessmaster 11 played after the King Pawn Game/Beyer Gambit  1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5:

Musikamole
Krish30 wrote:

wontronb hes talking about the position chess players strive to reach in other word this is just to show us the best place ment of the pieces pretend black isntr their or the other way around


Exactly. Thank you! I found a match that uses something like the Beyer Gambit. You will see all four pawns in the center, but the exchange will leave two pawns on the Queen side, so there's no need to exchange queens.  Maybe it would be good for Blitz games...perhaps confusing the opponent a bit and costing some clock time. I've never seen an opening like this before. Enjoy.

kunduk

huh.. what is this?

vwang

Octoclonius
Stockfish 8 vs Stockfish 8. White starts with the "Perfect" Opening. The game starts on turn 11. This is to display the impact of having the "Perfect" Opening from the beginning. Every move by both sides was evaluated by Stockfish 8 for a depth of at least 32. Inevitable Checkmate was found at or before turn 33. This goes to show the true power of a "Perfect" Opening. I honestly think that there is no way to win or even draw for Black. Enjoy the game!

 

Joel_Khonna

edited moderator AndrewSmith