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ARandomPerson

I am wondering if anyone knows any good obscure openings. I want to throw someone (a good player) off their game.

Something not touching d e or the knights at the beginning.

 

what fo you reccomend.

westcoastchess

1.f4 if youre aggressive, and maybe a fianchetto if youre passive

Conquistador

Saragossa Opening 1.c3, I have used that in the past and my opponents have always been surprised.

rrrttt

C4. It has the biggest win percentage for white and It is fairly uncommon in master play

PawnInTheGame

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 a6 (O'kelly Variation) gives black good chances if white plays 3.d4 which happens 90% of the time. If white chooses the best option with 3.c3 it's still only a very small advantage for white. I have used this opening for 3 years now and it serves me well!

Mendyal
ARandomPerson wrote:

I am wondering if anyone knows any good obscure openings. I want to throw someone (a good player) off their game.

Something not touching d e or the knights at the beginning.

 

what fo you reccomend.


might be helpfull to know what your opponent usually plays as black/white , and same for you and does he know what you usually play?

ARandomPerson

I play either, I use a coin to decide.

Mendyal

I meaned the opening, not the colour. Wink

ARandomPerson

she plays the dorsal fin, as standard as standard can be.

contrapunctus

I would play g3, it is reasonably flexible and can transpose into aggressive or defensive openings.

Ricardo_Morro

I second Conquiscador's recommendation of the Saragossa opening, 1. c3, often followed by 2. d3. I have played this against masters to take them out of their book. I beat Jude Acers with it in a game for money and I drew another master, Neil Harris, in a tournament with it. Alekhine used to play the Saragossa opening in minor tournaments in Spain while exiled in his later drunken and disgraced years; naturally, he had a high rate of success with it.

westcoastchess

I could also see 1.c3 used to "flip colors" if you were really good at black.

1.c3 e5 2.c4

1.c3 d5 2.Nf3 c5 3.c4

ASpieboy

I like g3. It's nice, lets you get a comfy castle. For win percentage, I don't think it's so great, but it works for me anyway.

goldendog

Since the premise is to throw off a "good" player (i.e. better than 900 turn based here) who is not very strong, I think instead of going for rarely seen openings it would be better in every way to become well-acquainted with orthodox openings and normal and sound ideas.

Nothing throws one off more than being outplayed.

That's the path for someone rated 900 here anyway. It would be the path for someone rated 900 otb. It would be the path for someone rated 1400 otb.

westcoastchess

yeah I agree with goldendog.

learn standard openings that have good principles, such as QG and Ruy Lopez. you may not know what to do well, but other 900s wont either, and youll be on your way to improvement. all of your games are going to end in tactics and not theory, so opening shouldnt matter much anyways

heckonwheels
westcoastchess wrote:

1.f4 if youre aggressive, and maybe a fianchetto if youre passive


 1.f4 requires precise play. I would learn it inside and out of you're going to play it.  You could also play an opening that transposes easily into other openings.  Whichever one you choose I would make myself very familiar with the variation you wanted.

fiver

b3

westcoastchess
heckonwheels wrote:
westcoastchess wrote:

1.f4 if youre aggressive, and maybe a fianchetto if youre passive


 1.f4 requires precise play. I would learn it inside and out of you're going to play it.  You could also play an opening that transposes easily into other openings.  Whichever one you choose I would make myself very familiar with the variation you wanted.


yeah Im a bird player 100% of the time as white myself. I play 1.f4 d5 2.b3, but if youre just starting out 1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 is important so you dont run into king problems.

rrrttt

as I previously said C4. Good members probably only know E4 AND D4, and C4 leads to a sound position with amazing winning percentage for white

Tricklev

1. c4 is not unconventional, it's one of the most used opening moves there are.

 

THe kings bishop gambit is a bit unconventinoal and hasn't been popular in 130 years, but back then it was extremely popular, leads to some funny positions aswell, I´d recommend you´d give it a quick try as a surprise weapon.