Until you understand that playing 2...Nf6 has nothing to do with preventing Scholar's Mate you will struggle to improve.
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It prevents the queen form moving to h5 [i think]
Thanks cool. i need opening ideas
Jul 20, 2014
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#7
The position in the OP allows the direct zinger 3...Nxe4 that either opens the Frankenstein-Dracula can of worms or equalizes with 4.Qh5 Nd6 5.Bb3 Be7
The Vienna never recovered from the famous Weaver Adams-Harry Lyman match where Lyman won the match playing black against Adams and his famous "White to play and win" system.
Jul 20, 2014
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#9
The Vienna is the first cousin of the Kings Gambit. In fact, you can steer into the Vienna Gambit with 3.f4
Jul 21, 2014
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#10
I think a lot of the posts here are mixing the Vienna with the Bishop's Opening. Though they can transpose, they also can diverge significantly.
Nc3 in this position is a theoretical mistake:
Jul 21, 2014
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Th3 tru3 V13nn4 st4rt5 w1th Nc3 1mm3d14t3ly after E5, 1t5 pl4y3d on m0v3 2!!!
Jul 21, 2014
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#14
I have taken up the Frankenstein-Dracula many times as Black and have come out a bit ahead over the years.
But as far as the Vienna goes, I don't see why anyone would avoid the Ruy and slug it out in the center over a long struggle instead of popping one's cork in the opening and then drifting through an equal/slightly inferior middlegame.
Interesting ideas. ..really appreciated
Nice but those are popular openings and not something different.
pfren wrote:
Fiveofswords wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:
I have taken up the Frankenstein-Dracula many times as Black and have come out a bit ahead over the years.
But as far as the Vienna goes, I don't see why anyone would avoid the Ruy and slug it out in the center over a long struggle instead of popping one's cork in the opening and then drifting through an equal/slightly inferior middlegame.
i dont normally see an equal or inferior middlegame. Usually i actually get a winnign edge in the vienna at some point in the opening, which i later might fail to convert. The statistics for white in the vienna at GM level last i checked is actually ahead of the ruy. The position you are really going for is
I'm afraid I fail to see what is so special about tjis position: Black is just fine by applying common sense, say 5...d6 6.Nf3 a6.
The Vienna game is a wonderfull opening. please comment about subject