What do you think about the Polish Opening/Orangutan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzawKX1nKMA 

I play 1...d5  2. Bb2 Qd6 against it, threatening both to capture the b-pawn and push ...e5. This looks logical, but the only time I ever played it in a classical rated game my opponent, who'd not really prepared it, did pretty well out of the opening. 

Intresting! , I'm aware d5 is a move, do you prefer it to 1...e5?

I think It's one of the few 1st moves which are slightly worse for White. I play 1... e5 because White had the illogical idea of placing a pawn on an undefended square. 2. Bb2 2... Bxb4 3 Bxe5 3... Nf6 of course theory continues here and Black has to know some lines but the White Bishop is misplaced, Black wins some tempis and can push d5. he also has the better pawn structure

It's a tricky opening that's dangerous if you don't know what to do against it. The computer hates it because the computer doesn't make mistakes, but if you know what you're doing and your opponent doesn't, you're going to win some games.

I've played it exactly once to get the achievement and I won easily since my opponent fell for the one of the many traps. I don't like trappy openings since I find them cheap, but hey, lots of people love the Stafford, so what can you say.

BTW. I lost to the Polish/Orangutan/Sokolsky exactly once. As usual, whenever I fall victim to a trappy opening that in my heart I know is unsound, I go to YouTube and search for ways to punish it. Palm Beach Chess made a short video on how to punish it, and I haven't lost to it since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48fF9vi3h5c

its white that ends up with the central pawn majority and better pawn structure in these lines, not black. Blacks advantage is a lead in development.

this gambit line is not nearly as easy for black as he makes it seem. he only covered one approach for white, and arguably one of the less good ones.

but even if it was, white can just 2.c4 instead and avoid it

@darkunorthodox88 - I can't really say since I've only ever faced it four times and won three in a row. If you say that there are better responses, I won't argue with you. But it's easy to remember, and since you face an Orangutan maybe once every 200 games, that's good enough for me.

White has a satisfactory reply to virtually all the famous antidotes from 1.c6 stuff to 1.d5 2.qd6 to 1.e5 2.f6 stuff and everything in between. 

but personally,  the line which i think is practically the most challenging and will test if white truly knows what he is doing is this one. 

This is the line i consider quite critical and white has to be quite careful, especially since black has serious threats with re8-nf4 stuff. but even before that, the e5 bxb4 with early c5 instead of nc6 line is very annoying and requires white to play some unique moves to not end up worse, including the unique qc2, in a lot of lines white has to play bd3 instead of the natural be2 as well. Suffice to say if your white oranguntan opponent knows all of that, you can kiss goodbye any realistic chance of an opening knockout as they are playing their opening with a master's understanding of it.

As I say, I didn't do too well with it in my one serious game (though it's worked OK in blitz). I quite like the c6 idea linked to above.

It is playable.
Even the reverse 1 d4 b5 or 1 e4 a6 2 d4 b5 is playable for black.

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1068157 

1 a6 and 2 b5 doesn't seem playable to me and one single game is not going to change my mind on anything

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There are many games with it on master and grandmaster level, but this was a win with black against the reigning world champion and in a classical time control. If it is good enough to beat the reigning world champion in a classical game, then it surely is good enough to beat lesser players and even more so in fast time controls.

it's just one game, Karpov is a human and humans make mistakes! Of course world champions make less mistakes than us but everyone is allowed to lose every once in a while. I don't think the opening mattered too much for that specific game

Grob seems to be better. At least if you know how to play it properly.

b4 only wins 27% of the time in Master's games. In games with mere mortals, it just does as well as anything else does, which isn't surprising.

it is playable, end of story

So your going to face it once every 200 games, but memorizes who knows what to fight it, with X amt of opportunity cost? And its funny you dont know the Palm Beach "trainer" counter move.

In the OP game, he lasts 4 moves? Right there, he gets negative pts. He wanted to pull a fast one win quick win now and got burnt. Lesson? I just need a different move to win in 10 moves.Post another video ad naseum.