What is your opinion on the Scotch opening?

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Vidigal22
I don't understand why the Scotch opening ( e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 d4) is so little played, I don't see any GM using it in big tournaments and amateur players themselves almost always prefer to use the Italian or ruy lopez Kasparov already said that Ruy Lopez and Scotch are the only openings that allow White to maintain the advantage longer, so why doesn't anyone use the Scotch? I understand that Ruy Lopez is more solid, but they never use Scotch. I find it very interesting because you create a semi-open column right at the beginning of the game, having the option of making the castle on the king or queen side, in addition to being easy to develop your pieces
TheChessaGamer
TheChessaGamer

What if 3. exd4?

1Lindamea1

Because the italian has a fried liver, and the ruy lopez is cool bc gms play it. Same can be said about the ponziani. Nobody plays it altho it is solid.

Chuck639

I like scotch..

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bad and trash

chessterd5

play it, if you like it. it is just a matter of if and when either side wishes to exchange a set of center pawns. Personally, I like to play 2...,d6 or 1e4,d6 and avoid all of the 2...,Nc6 games.

dfgh123

I think it's because everyone starts with the Italian and everyone has success with it straight from the start so they don't feel the need to change it.

1Lindamea1
dfgh123 написал:

I think it's because everyone starts with the Italian and everyone has success with it straight from the start so they don't feel the need to change it.

Yea. Italian is too op at the beginner level

Badchesserrr4486999

Speaking from experience, the classical where we play c3 gets Very problematic after Nf3 as black has 3 pieces developed to our one and he is X raying the knight to the f2 pawn.

Badchesserrr4486999

Taking on c3 will bring us Huge problems.

Badchesserrr4486999

I mean c6.

maafernan

Hi! I think the Scotch is a fine opening and not easy to counter. Perhaps it lost some popularity at Master level because with accurate play Black levels the game, especially after 4...Nf6.

Good luck!

gik-tally

i tried it a long time ago and was just unable to click with it and returned to king's gambit.

I want to try the danish gambit though because it has stonger stats than either line and when 1 GM stated that its whole purpose is to relentlessly attack black before he can castle. I decided it might be worth a try with my 5% or so losing stats in KG.

1Lindamea1
Have you tried the göring gambit?
gik-tally

goring has better stats!

I was trying to decide between that and the danish and it looks like the danish has slightly better stats AND, if I remember right, can transpose into strong goering lines

jmoopening
RideZen2

It's good.

Ethan_Brollier

Because Black just equalizes instantly and White's position is a lot harder to play. Take the "mainlines" as one example.

tygxc

Kasparov played the Scotch at top levels.

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1067316

AlphaZero ranks:

  1. Ruy Lopez
  2. Italian
  3. Four Knights
  4. Scotch

Figure 30