What to play against the Scandinavian Defense

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Trickster

What do u play against this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

And is there a way to stop the Scandinavian Defense?


Sprite

Ah, the "Patzer" variation of the Scandinavian Defense.  4. Be2 is actually what I would play....followed by 5.Nf3 and 6. O-O to break the pin (if the pin is still maintained).  Don't get frightened by pins, they are often easily broken.  This isn't played at higher levels, as white develops a piece to protect the king, and then gains a tempo by attacking the queen once again. 


FerrusKG
The best way to stop scandinavian defence is to play 1. d4 or 1. c4
UberCryxic
Per Sprite, Qe5+ is a horrible move that just gives white more opportunity to develop. The standard third move for black here should be Qa5; Qd6 is another good option. Be2 would be a good move, as would Ne2 if you want to fianchetto the bishop on g2 (although if Ne2 watch out for Bg4, which will definitely be coming). If you want to avoid it altogether, then just play something else besides e4 on white's first move.
Trickster
Thanks guys!
Fromper

I'm with Sprite on this one. Just playing developing moves, and if some of your development happens to attack your opponent's queen, then that's better for you. :P When I used to play 1. e4, I never really worried about the Scandinavian. I just had an easy time improvising my way to a playable middle game against it, as opposed to some opening responses like the Sicilian that made me really work.

 

Or you can avoid the Scandinavian altogether and transpose to the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit: 1. e4 d5 2. d4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3. That gambit usually starts with 1. d4 d5 2. e4, but this is a common way to transpose into it.

 

--Fromper 


haydoman
Sprite wrote:

Ah, the "Patzer" variation of the Scandinavian Defense.  4. Be2 is actually what I would play....followed by 5.Nf3 and 6. O-O to break the pin (if the pin is still maintained).  Don't get frightened by pins, they are often easily broken.  This isn't played at higher levels, as white develops a piece to protect the king, and then gains a tempo by attacking the queen once again.

That is flawed because black would pay Qg2 after Be2 and take whites's king rook

AutisticCath

Qe2 and Be2 are both good. If after Be2, he plays Bg4, follow up with d5. After Bxe2 Ngxe2 white has initiative. If Qxe2 (when blocking with queen) then Bxe2 and white has better initiative.

ashir_rao

Try f3!

Yigor

U shouldn't stop but encourage your opponent to play Scandinavian since it's advantageous for white. grin.png

ponz111

As someone who wrote a book on the Scandinavian and who has had great success playing the Scandinavian [played against masters and higher] --i am here to tell you that the Scandinavian is NOT a good way to counter 1. e4.Undecided

Yigor
ponz111 wrote:

As someone who wrote a book on the Scandinavian and who has had great success playing the Scandinavian [played against masters and higher] --i am here to tell you that the Scandinavian is NOT a good way to counter 1. e4.

 

Please provide us a reference to your book! happy.png

ponz111

The book was "Center Counter Uprising". But it came out about 1990 and is out of date. Still on Amazon i think. 

ashir_rao

Try f3

Yigor
ponz111 wrote:

The book was "Center Counter Uprising". But it came out about 1990 and is out of date. Still on Amazon i think. 

 

Yeah, still on Amazon and very expensive. It has probably become a rarety. blitz.pngwink.png

MidnasLament
Kingskiller wrote:
The best way to stop scandinavian defence is to play 1. d4 or 1. c4

 

hehe!

MidnasLament

I'm a Scandi player!  I play the Qa5 mainline and one thing you could do is delay the move Nc3 (attacking the queen) and instead play Nf3 d4 c4!  This confuses a lot of Scandi players and you end up in a different type of game.  I believe its called the Portuguese variation.  I don't like it when white does this.. not at all.  So maybe that's a good option for you?

 

There is also a variation that Vishy Anand played and it had an early Ne5 followed by g4, attacking the bishop on f5.  Black has to be very accurate otherwise you get steamrolled.  Like here is an example of things going very wrong for black.

 

 

ashir_rao

TRY F3 FOLKS!

ponz111
ashir_rao wrote:

TRY F3 FOLKS!

This is ambiguous. At what move??

ashir_rao
ponz111 wrote:
ashir_rao wrote:

TRY F3 FOLKS!

This is ambiguous. At what move??

After 1.d5