why do people like the caro kann?
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Oct 19, 2016
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#42
tubebender wrote:
PRESSALTF4 wrote:
After e4 c6 d4 d5 e5, I think black is too cramped. Every time i play the caro kann, I lose
Methinks you lose regardless of what opening you play. My friends and I laughed so hard playing over your games, a couple of them actually pissed their pants! Listen, grasshopper, some people really suck at Chess but if going through the motions makes you happy, then keep playing. Keeps us laughing. Play on!
That comment is not helpful. You are so full of yourself, play a couple of hundred games and THEN you can brag a bit, your stats are totally meaningless atm. Btw, who cares about you or your friends?
Oct 19, 2016
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#43
eaguiraud wrote:
tubebender wrote:
PRESSALTF4 wrote:
After e4 c6 d4 d5 e5, I think black is too cramped. Every time i play the caro kann, I lose
Methinks you lose regardless of what opening you play. My friends and I laughed so hard playing over your games, a couple of them actually pissed their pants! Listen, grasshopper, some people really suck at Chess but if going through the motions makes you happy, then keep playing. Keeps us laughing. Play on!
That comment is not helpful. You are so full of yourself, play a couple of hundred games and THEN you can brag a bit, your stats are totally meaningless atm. Btw, who cares about you or your friends?
Look mkey, why don't you find a job for some btch of yours in that btchy summer camp so we can all applaud at how brave you are. Let me also add, thank God I'm not playing chess anymore.
Oct 20, 2016
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#44
tubebender wrote:
I am 69 years old and was very active in USCF OTB Chess for many years. My highest rating in that was 1764. My current USCF Correspondence rating is 2117. You should be impressed. Some of you individuals have never played in a real rated face to face (other wise known as OTB or "over the board") tournaments and quite frankly many of you do not know what you`re talking about. So far I am playing in "turn based" Chess.com games as I await my USCF Correspondence Finals assignment to kill time. I`ve also contributed to Caro-Kann vote Chess groups with winning ideas.
Doesn't seem like a valid reason to belittle other people, but maybe that's just me :)
Oct 20, 2016
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#45
Spectator94 wrote:
The Caro-Kann is solid and doesn't require as much memorisation of long complicated variations like when you play e5, c5 and e6. It's an opening in which understanding structures is much more important than keeping up with theory and so it's a fairly popular opening among for example older GMs.
Actually it seems like the opposite is true to me. At the highest level the carokann is just super complex and is full of a variety of very double edged positions that are tough to play. Its easier to play those other 3 openings, which is why they are more popular at the top. While guys who want to have fun and crazy games against 1.e4 like Jobava will constantly role it out.
Oct 20, 2016
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#46
Rogue_King wrote:
Spectator94 wrote:
The Caro-Kann is solid and doesn't require as much memorisation of long complicated variations like when you play e5, c5 and e6. It's an opening in which understanding structures is much more important than keeping up with theory and so it's a fairly popular opening among for example older GMs.
Actually it seems like the opposite is true to me. At the highest level the carokann is just super complex and is full of a variety of very double edged positions that are tough to play. Its easier to play those other 3 openings, which is why they are more popular at the top. While guys who want to have fun and crazy games against 1.e4 like Jobava will constantly role it out.
Full of a variety does mean less theoretical to me, tbh.
Rogue_King wrote:
Spectator94 wrote:
The Caro-Kann is solid and doesn't require as much memorisation of long complicated variations like when you play e5, c5 and e6. It's an opening in which understanding structures is much more important than keeping up with theory and so it's a fairly popular opening among for example older GMs.
Actually it seems like the opposite is true to me. At the highest level the carokann is just super complex and is full of a variety of very double edged positions that are tough to play. Its easier to play those other 3 openings, which is why they are more popular at the top. While guys who want to have fun and crazy games against 1.e4 like Jobava will constantly role it out.
That might be true; however, not everyone is at a high level. In lower levels, the Caro-Kann is annoyingly solid as it usually leads to passive play. If you don't have the skills and/or knowledge to handle its positions, which is the case for lower levels, it boils down to patience and improvisation. Black is relatively comfortable behind its barrier of pawns while White has to find a way to break through, so it's naturally easier for Black to be patient but the pressure is on White's shoulders. This is why I believe the Caro-Kann is seen more on lower levels than higher levels, though honestly I don't see it that much. The Sicilian is much, MUCH more common. Then there's the French. Just my two cents.
Oct 21, 2016
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#48
tubebender wrote:
I am 69 years old and was very active in USCF OTB Chess for many years. My highest rating in that was 1764. My current USCF Correspondence rating is 2117. You should be impressed. Some of you individuals have never played in a real rated face to face (other wise known as OTB or "over the board") tournaments and quite frankly many of you do not know what you`re talking about. So far I am playing in "turn based" Chess.com games as I await my USCF Correspondence Finals assignment to kill time. I`ve also contributed to Caro-Kann vote Chess groups with winning ideas.
You're showing off with that amazing 2117 rating while Pfren is humbly observing with some IM title
Oct 22, 2016
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#49
it s not so good caro-kann. Maybe because the chess masters prefer begin with it.
tubebender wrote:
... I just get riled up when folks who are not that strong (even on this site) mock and revile a defensive system that has been used by world champions with very good effect. Just because a player cannot grasp the concept or get the "feel" of an opening or a defence, this does not mean that it is "for old men" as some have said or some other negative comments (which is their right, as I quickly add). ...
Post #46 was not (as far as I can tell) directed at the one who posted the "old men" comments. See posts, #19 and #45.
Oct 22, 2016
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#51
SilentKnighte5 wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
SilentKnighte5 wrote:
It's a perfectly acceptable opening for people over 50.
I've played it off and on for the last 15 years, and I'm only 41. What does that make me?
If you play the Caro-Kann when you're young, what will you play when you're old?
Same things I play today. Caro-Kann, French, Petroff, Berlin, Taimanov Sicilian, Modern Defense - That's pretty much my arsenol against 1.e4 in a nutshell!
I thought old guys played the CK to beat up young guys that dont know anything about the endgame.
Oct 25, 2016
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#53
The Caro-Kan is one of those openings you really want to refute as white, but you have to learn to fight for a small edge.
Oct 25, 2016
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#54
I can't think of a single reason actually, its pawn formation is spreading back and fourth in all directions, from the queen's gambit accepted to the nimco-indian, the london system and who knows where else. It is one of the most generic openings I have ever met.
caro kann has a ok score
If you want to beat up on 1.e4 you gotta play the Berlin and learn some endgame stuff which is not to everyones taste. The present world championship match clearly demonstrates that chess games are hardly ever won or lost in the opening phase but are won or lost in the middle game and the endgame.
Nov 15, 2016
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#57
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Nov 15, 2016
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#58
Maybe Magnus is testing whether he can outplay Karjakin or not, it is rather unusual to enter those variations in the berlin. Magnus could also be testing out Sergey's opening preparation before he goes for a kill, but I might be wrong.
PRESSALTF4 نوشته:
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After e4 c6 d4 d5 e5, I think black is too cramped. Every time i play the caro kann, I lose
