Why does Petrov Defence unpopular at low level?

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Danny_Kaye

its kinda popular now with everybody trying to play the Stafford gambit..

Sgtmeepy
alyffnajmy wrote:

Can be defused by bishop opening

Isn't that just playing against the bishop opening? That's the same as saying the Sicilian is a bad simply because it can be defused by playing 1. d4.

NikkiLikeChikki

these days, at intermediate ratings, when someone plays the Russian, 9 times out of 10 they are going to play the Stafford. It's nauseating.

Solmyr1234
yestwo wrote:

Is it not good or do people just think it is boring or something?

It's excellent - A favorite of Gelfand. But I personally think it's boring. And every time someone played it against me, I ganged up on the horse, and mostly I won, so... I don't want White to ride on my horse...

 

But maybe I'm wrong, who cares. Boaring.

NikkiLikeChikki

@pfren - the problem with playing against the Stafford isn't that it's hard to play against. The exact opposite is the case. They always play the same moves, I always play the same refutation, I always win, and it's boring. Maybe I'm weird, but I don't enjoy playing a game where I do the same thing every time, even if I win.

NikkiLikeChikki

@pfren - I don't know. I feel that people who play the Stafford aren't playing chess, they are playing something they memorize and hope you don't know what to do. It's like a more complicated version of the Jerome Gambit and both lose by force if you know the refutation. I just feel it's my duty to punish Stafford players as quickly and easily as possible, and I don't want to risk letting them win. Besides, I'm not going to bother learning a whole new line of theory for an opening I face maybe once every 25-40 games. I suppose you can say it's my fault, and you're not wrong.

Solmyr1234
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:

@pfren - the problem with playing against the Stafford isn't that it's hard to play against. The exact opposite is the case. They always play the same moves, I always play the same refutation, I always win, and it's boring. Maybe I'm weird, but I don't enjoy playing a game where I do the same thing every time, even if I win.

That's funny. I'd Never take the horse - I don't get them, you know what's my favorite thing in all of chess? "letting them hang themselves" [with their akward development, usually by retreating]

 

 

It may look dumb - to return the horsy, but now Black's queen is stuck, his horse sits on his c-pawn... as opposed to you - who can play c3, d4 - have your queen fly - fun.

or you may play d4 instead, this horse retreat is just an example - maybe in here it's terrible..

Another example:

 

The annoying Alekhine Defense - yes, normally you push the pawn, but why not pulling the horsy - taking away the central light sqrs from his horse? now, if White could play e5... the Black horse is back to the stable in g8. - again, just an example, I don't know if that's actually good in here.

ConfusedGhoul

in this case 2 Nc3 is bad because Black equalizes immediately with 2... d5 or 2... e5 which transposes to a Vienna. I know the Horse on d5 is annoying but it will be kicked eventually with c4 and 2 e5 is the only move to consider against the Alekhine if you don't play the Vienna