How do you play By feel or By Calculation?

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deepOzzzie

Hey,

I am just  curious guys. How do you approach the game of chess. Do you calculate everything out? or do you look at a position and feel intuitively what needs to be played?

My personal style is tend to just feel the position, and if it is necessary i can calculate but i often try to avoid it. However, this does leave me in a pickle sometimes cause i miss obvious tactics.

How about you?

Streptomicin
deepOzzzie wrote:

...just feel the position, and if it is necessary i can calculate but i often try to avoid it. However, this does leave me in a pickle sometimes cause i miss obvious tactics.

 

You said it. +1 to that. 

TheGrobe

I'm far more of a tactician than I am a positional player so calculate, calculate, calculate.

goldendog

I used to be very much a by feel player but a long interlude with just a computer opponent punishing me for bad lines made me mainly a calculator. Intuition and feel is developed with experience though, so you're never without your spidey sense.

Kernicterus

Mostly I just do whatever I see first...which has nothing to do with intuition or calculation...but when I'm having a good day, my calculation is relatively fast and I calculate a lot and seem to do better.

I don't use intuition for anything.

artfizz
AfafBouardi wrote:

Mostly I just do whatever I see first...which has nothing to do with intuition or calculation...but when I'm having a good day, my calculation is relatively fast and I calculate a lot and seem to do better.

I don't use intuition for anything.


Does "a woman's intuition" even work over the internet?

Kernicterus

When they were handing out womens intuition, I got seriously gypped so you're asking the wrong person.

artfizz
AfafBouardi wrote: When they were handing out womens intuition, I got seriously gypped so you're asking the wrong person.

Isn't there a theory that if you lose or don't have one of the senses (in this case, your 6th sense), your other senses become more finely attuned to compensate?

BTW, my mother was in the Women's Intuition for many years.

Kernicterus
artfizz wrote:
AfafBouardi wrote: When they were handing out womens intuition, I got seriously gypped so you're asking the wrong person.

Isn't there a theory that if you lose or don't have one of the senses (in this case, your 6th sense), your other senses become more finely attuned to compensate?

BTW, my mother was in the Women's Intuition for many years.


hah.  I don't think it applies to the 6th sense.  But I have weak vision and a very strong sense of smell.  It's like a double punishment. 

mariobaluba

I'll play have feel have calculation.I'll initiate a game whith some calculate moves,and then i mixt up a feu have-calculeted movesSmile and so on...lol.I beg pardon for my english.Wink

killthequeen

Intuitive sacrifice

Deranged

If it is a new position such as in chess mentor for example, then I try to calculate the best moves. If I am playing a game, then I move as they move and every move only alters the position, the main board still stays the same, which is why I sort of gain a feel for the position and just move naturally. But it also depends on the time. In a blitz game, I almost always depend on what move seems more natural and tend to go for material more than position, but in long games I am more tactical and I try to make calculations and think ahead before I move.

rubygabbi

Calculating a long range plan is probably best, but I simply don't possess all the necessary skills for that yet. So, I examine each new position for fresh attack combinations. Of course, if I'm under attack myself, I try to conjure up a good counterattack as a possible defense. 

schlagle

Both. I calculate as far as I can. Once I reach a spot where it is just too complex to go further I take a good long look at the board and see how I feel about the setup. If I feel I've got some kind of advantage (space, structure, etc) I'll go with it. If it looks like a bad setup then I go back and start calculating again.

Chess_Enigma

When I first started to play I used to calculate everything and was burnt out 45 min into the game, now I calculate when nessecary: when someone has the initiative to force moves, otherwise it is pointless, tedious and tiring. I particularly "feel" when sacing a piece or pawn for the initiative.

bigmac30

you do need to do both but instinct usally is a thogt process that is logical to the rules then you chek it out by calculating it

Heinrich_24

There is a diffence between OTB or onlinechess. In OTB I trust more frequently in intuition and general understanding than in online chess.-

It is a question of time management

TheGrobe
tonydal wrote:

I do both.  But really a lot of times deciding who's better boils down to "intuition" (or maybe it's just the usual matter of semantics)...


Semantics?  I guess it could be argued that the intuition you apply is in a sense pre-calculated from all of your prior experience, but I find that a bit of a stretch.  At a certain point, though, I think all of that experience and prior calculation gets rolled up into something that's no longer calculation at all and only then do we label it "intuition" or "feel".

I think Richie_and_Oprah argued at one point that chess was 100% memorization using a similar argument to the one above.  It may have been a little easier to twist the semantics to make the argument but I think it was a little off the mark as well (is raw calculation, for example a feat of memory?).

TheGrobe
mauerblume wrote:

There is a diffence between OTB or onlinechess. In OTB I trust more frequently in intuition and general understanding than in online chess.-

It is a question of time management


Time is definitely the driver.  As a brute-force calculator I only play turn based for this very reason.