Pre-arranged GM draw. Bloody disgrace!!!!!!

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Archaic71

Mar 1, 2011

#21

what a lovely position, that took as much effort (IMO) as a game would have

fabelhaft

Mar 4, 2011

#22

General_Lee wrote:

I have to say in order to get a higher title, i dont think you should be allowed to have ANY prearranged games like this. I agree with the poster, it is a "bloody disgrace" It takes the excitement and joy out of chess, and that is not what draws people to chess

A bloody disgrace that takes the excitement and joy out of chess, well, what about all those pointless games that are drawn after five-six moves where there is nothing interesting at all and it's just as obvious that it's prearranged. Here they at least constructed something fun out of it rather than just play the usual meaningless moves that have been played thousands of times before. A game like this once every decade wouldn't take the excitement and joy out of chess for me.

fabelhaft

Mar 4, 2011

#23

Misha_Tal wrote:

kissinger wrote:

LazyPig83 wrote:

pre-arranged draws have been going on in chess for years, when the soviet union decided who was worthy of a title. they conspired against fischer in curacao '62, with petrosian the main culprit, petrosian, geller and keres formed a combine to draw easily with each other in order to preserve their strength against fischer, then keres was dropped from the combine because petrosian and geller needed to beat keres and fischer to win the tournament. petrosian denied this, although a game against keres was agreed drawn when (as fischer pointed out), should have been won by petrosian. so don't be surprised to see a pre-arranged draw in top level chess.

Good point, good research, Fischer was always distrustful of Soviets......rightly so!!!

Fischer wrongly thought their wins/losses against each other were fixes as well, so he was only half right

Didn't he say that every game in all the matches Karpov played were pre-arranged? So he was maybe 0.1% right. He was so far from the best in Curacao that he just should have accepted that he wasn't good enough by then. He said that Korchnoi threw lots of games to the other Soviets, but still Fischer just finished 0.5 ahead of him, so even Korchnoi must have been better than Fischer at the time.

Rogalentis

Mar 5, 2011

#24

But why doesn't black cheat white and win?

Atos

Mar 8, 2011

#25

Yeah the rules are for others not for me, great.

Flamma_Aquila

Mar 8, 2011

#26

I think they should have to include "Incredible poosay" in their titles. Like "GM Incredible Poosay Smith" or whatever.

I mean for christsakes, you are a professional player, freaking play.

fabelhaft

Mar 9, 2011

#27

Bestbythetest wrote:

goldendog wrote:

Fischer lobbied for and was successful in having implemented a no-draw-in-less-than-30-moves rule for a tournament. Interestingly, Fischer was the first to break the rule by agreeing to a draw in less than 30. "That rule," he said, "is for Commie cheaters, not me."

hahahah , didnt know ths

It happened at the Olympiad 1962:

The rule was introduced after Bobby Fischer complained about agreed Soviet draws in Curacao that summer, but in Varna Fischer and Bulgaria's Nikola Padevsky halved in 20 moves without asking the arbiters, then left the hall. Fischer refused to return, saying "this rule is only for commie cheaters".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2005/apr/09/chess