Methods of Comparing the Strongest Players

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This is an article I found on the net which I though was very interesting. There are always debates on who the best ever chess player is/was and it’s one of those things that will never end. Anyway, I thought I would post the article and maybe someone will read it and have their own opinion on the article. Here’s the article ~

This article examines a number of methodologies that have been suggested for the task of comparing top chess players throughout history, particularly the question of comparing the greatest players of different eras. Statistical methods offer objectivity but, whilst there is agreement on systems to rate the strengths of current players, there is disagreement and controversy on whether such techniques can be applied to players from different generations who never competed against each other.

Statistical methods

Elo System

Perhaps the best-known statistical model is that devised by Arpad Elo. In his 1978 book The Rating of Chessplayers, Past and Present,[1] he gave ratings to players corresponding to their performance over the best five-year span of their career. According to this system the highest ratings achieved were:

·       2725 – José Raúl Capablanca

·       2720 – Mikhail Botvinnik, Emanuel Lasker

·       2700 – Mikhail Tal

·       2690 – Alexander Alekhine, Paul Morphy, Vasily Smyslov.

(Though published in 1978, Elo's list did not include five-year averages for Bobby Fischer and Anatoly Karpov. It did list January 1978 ratings of 2780 for Fischer and 2725 for Karpov.)[2]

In 1970, FIDE adopted Elo's system for rating current players, so one way to compare players of different eras is to compare their Elo ratings. The best-ever Elo ratings are tabulated below.[3]

Table of top 20 rated players ever, with date their best ratings were achieved for the first time

Rank  

Rating  

Player  

Year-month  

Country  

1

2851

Garry Kasparov

1999-07

 Russia

2

2813

Veselin Topalov

2006-07

 Bulgaria

3

2809[4]

Vladimir Kramnik

2001-10

 Russia

4

2803

Viswanathan Anand

2006-04

 India

5

2788

Alexander Morozevich

2008-07

 Russia

6

2787

Vassily Ivanchuk

2007-10

 Ukraine

7

2786

Magnus Carlsen

2008-10

 Norway

8

2785

Bobby Fischer

1972-04

 United States

9

2780

Anatoly Karpov

1994-07

 Russia

10

2765

Peter Svidler

2006-01

 Russia

11

2763

Péter Lékó

2005-04

 Hungary

 

2763

Levon Aronian

2006-07

 Armenia

13

2761

Teimour Radjabov

2009-01

 Azerbaijan

14

2760

Shakhriyar Mamedyarov

2008-01

 Azerbaijan

 

2760

Dmitry Jakovenko

2009-01

 Russia

16

2755

Michael Adams

2000-07

 England

 

2755

Alexey Shirov

2008-01

 Spain

18

2751

Sergei Movsesian

2009-01

 Slovakia

19

2748

Alexander Grischuk

2009-04

 Russia

20

2745

Gata Kamsky

1996-07

 United States

The average Elo rating of top players has risen over time. For instance, the average of the top 100 rose from 2645 in July 2001 to 2665 in July 2006.[5] Many people believe that this rise is mostly due to a system artifact known as ratings inflation, making it impractical to compare players of different eras.

Arpad Elo was of the opinion that it was futile to attempt to use ratings to compare players from different eras; in his view, they could only possibly measure the strength of a player as compared to his or her contemporaries. He also stated that the process of rating players was in any case rather approximate; he compared it to "the measurement of the position of a cork bobbing up and down on the surface of agitated water with a yard stick tied to a rope and which is swaying in the wind".[6]

Chessmetrics

Many statisticians since Elo have devised similar methods to retrospectively rate players. Jeff Sonas, for example, calls his system Chessmetrics. This system takes account of many games played after the publication of Elo's book, and claims to take account of the rating inflation that the Elo system has apparently suffered.

One caveat is that a Chessmetrics rating takes into account the frequency of play. According to Sonas, "As soon as you go a month without playing, your Chessmetrics rating will start to drop".[7] While it may be in the best interest of the fans for chess-players to remain active, it is not clear why a person's rating, which reflects his/her skill at chess, should drop if the player is inactive for a period of time.

Sonas, like Elo, acknowledges that it is useless to try to compare the strength of players from different eras. In his explanation of the Chessmetrics system,[8] he says:

Of course, a rating always indicates the level of dominance of a particular player against contemporary peers; it says nothing about whether the player is stronger/weaker in their actual technical chess skill than a player far removed from them in time. So while we cannot say that Bobby Fischer in the early 1970s or Jose Capablanca in the early 1920s were the "strongest" players of all time, we can say with a certain amount of confidence that they were the two most dominant players of all time. That is the extent of what these ratings can tell us.

Nevertheless Sonas' Web site does compare players from different eras, and shows that in such cases the Chessmetrics system is rather sensitive to the length of the periods being compared, for example in 2008 its rankings were:

 Position

1 year[9]

5 years[10]

10 years[11]

15 years[12]

20 years[13]

1

Bobby Fischer

Garry Kasparov

Garry Kasparov

Garry Kasparov

Garry Kasparov

2

Garry Kasparov

Emanuel Lasker

Emanuel Lasker

Anatoly Karpov

Anatoly Karpov

3

Mikhail Botvinnik

José Capablanca

Anatoly Karpov

Emanuel Lasker

Emanuel Lasker

4

José Capablanca

Mikhail Botvinnik

José Capablanca

José Capablanca

Alexander Alekhine

5

Emanuel Lasker

Bobby Fischer

Bobby Fischer

Alexander Alekhine

Viktor Korchnoi

6

Alexander Alekhine

Anatoly Karpov

Mikhail Botvinnik

Mikhail Botvinnik

Vassily Smyslov

In a 2005 ChessBase article,[14] Sonas uses Chessmetrics to evaluate historical annual performance ratings and comes to the conclusion that Kasparov was dominant for the most number of years, followed closely by Lasker and Karpov.

Warriors of the Mind

In contrast to Elo and Sonas's systems, Raymond Keene and Nathan Divinsky's book Warriors of the Mind[15] attempts to establish a rating system claiming to compare directly the strength of players active in different eras, and so determine the strongest player of all time. Considering games played between sixty-four of the strongest players in history, they come up with the following top ten:[16]

1.   Garry Kasparov, 3096

2.   Anatoly Karpov, 2876

3.   Bobby Fischer, 2690

4.   Mikhail Botvinnik, 2616

5.   José Raúl Capablanca, 2552

6.   Emanuel Lasker, 2550

7.   Viktor Korchnoi, 2535

8.   Boris Spassky, 2480

9.   Vasily Smyslov, 2413

10.Tigran Petrosian, 2363

These "Divinsky numbers" are not on the same scale as Elo ratings (the last person on the list, Johannes Zukertort, has a Divinsky number of 873, which would be a beginner-level Elo rating). Keene and Divinsky's system has met with limited acceptance,[17] and Warriors of the Mind has also been criticised for its arbitrary selection process and bias towards modern players.[18]

Actual moves played compared with computer choices

A computer-based method of analyzing chess abilities across history came from Matej Guid and Ivan Bratko from the Department of Computer and Information Science of University of Ljubljana, Slovenia, in 2006.[19] The basis for their evaluation was the difference between the position values resulting from the moves played by the human chess player and the moves chosen as best by a chess program, Crafty. They also compared the average number of errors in the player's game. Opening moves were excluded, in an attempt to negate the progress in chess opening theory. According to their analysis, the leader was José Raúl Capablanca, followed closely by Vladimir Kramnik.

The "Classical" World Chess Championship matches were analyzed, and the results for the fourteen Classical World Champions were presented.

Players with fewest average errors:

1.    Jose Raul Capablanca

2.    Vladimir Kramnik

3.    Anatoly Karpov

4.    Garry Kasparov

5.    Boris Spassky

6.

Rookbuster

Personally, with no regards toward that article, i always thought Kasparov was UNDERrated as the world champion.  He didn't get the respect he deserved.  Regardless of his competition, he was the best for a long time

Rookbuster

the best, well at least he was at the top for the longest time....the best is still up for debate as you say and will be until the end of time

Rookbuster

Also..watch for Magnus to be in the debate sometime in the future as he is already a top talent at his age

Darkweaver

My own opinion is that Alekhine and Capablanca and Lasker often do not get the respect that Fischer, Karpov and Kasparov get when being rated as the greatest of all time.

Capablanca was perhaps the game's most gifted natural talent, Lasker was world champion for longer than anyone else, and Alekhine managed to beat Capablanca at or very near Capa's peak.

Whilst I personally think Kasparov is to date the greatest of all time, with Fischer a close second, some of the older players do not often get the respect their achievements and play deserve.

TheOldReb
Darkweaver wrote:

My own opinion is that Alekhine and Capablanca and Lasker often do not get the respect that Fischer, Karpov and Kasparov get when being rated as the greatest of all time.

Capablanca was perhaps the game's most gifted natural talent, Lasker was world champion for longer than anyone else, and Alekhine managed to beat Capablanca at or very near Capa's peak.

Whilst I personally think Kasparov is to date the greatest of all time, with Fischer a close second, some of the older players do not often get the respect their achievements and play deserve.


 And you dont give the mighty Steinitz his due recognition?!  At one point he won more than 20 matches in a row, he never ducked anybody and played 6 world championship matches , winning 4 of them and only losing his last 2 against a young Lasker. I, like you, feel the older masters are often neglected and Steinitz isnt mentioned as often as Alekhine, Capa, and Lasker....

Darkweaver

Actually I agree, Steinitz does deserve more recognition.  He was after all commonly considered to be the father of modern chess techique and thinking.

escral

What about Paul Morphy?

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