whats with many of the top grandmasters and USCF raings?

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Ziryab
Zug wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

If an event in the US is strong enough to attact grandmasters, it will be rated by FIDE. USCF ratings are for weaker players.


This is an not an accurate statement, James.  US players start out playing in the USCF.  Look at Hikaru Nakamura.  He has both USCF and FIDE ratings.  I can tell you right now that I am not a weak player, but I do not have a FIDE rating.  Why?  Well, for many reasons, not the least of which is that I recognized early on that there is no money in chess to make a living unless you are one of the top 50 to 100 in the world.  Eeking out a living by giving lessons, writing, and simultaneous exhibitions is not my idea of a living.

So, if you want to say that USCF ratings are for weaker players, then you must include any national federation ratings.  I suppose that, according to your statement, the only strong players in the world are exclusively FIDE rated.  While generally true, it is not absolutely true.  Temper your opinions with fact, my friend.


You are correct.

Indeed, the top USCF player in my state remains among the 100 top FIDE players and lives in Europe. He grew up here and had a USCF rating before a FIDE rating.

The top player that grew up in my city has been a NM for several years and should be granted the FM title soon as his FIDE rating is now over 2300.

NNaa33
AnthonyCG wrote:
NNaa33 wrote:
KingQueen64 wrote:

Face it, the US ain't the center of everything...


 i highly object, i live in the US and it is the place where you get a new start and has the most fairest community, plus what ever big thing the US does, other counrties happen to know about it


Ok go on...

That can't be it...

That's like saying 1.e4 is better because more people play it...


 what do you mean e4 is better???     more people play it because all the weak players play it, d4 is better and seen more among grandmasters and top players

Skwerly

Gotta love watertight arguments like that!  :D

NNaa33

lol

NNaa33

Winka picclated winking eye

NNaa33

if your FIDE rating is 2800 like carlsen or Anand, then you will probally have a 2900+ USCF rating

NNaa33

that may be true, but i think either Anand or Carlsen will be the first to pass 2900

Tricklev

Anand is 40, if he where to ever pass 2900 he would have done so a long time ago.

NNaa33

that doesn't mean he still can't

goldendog

Anand is a superb player but it's a safe bet that he won't make 2900 FIDE. Carlsen, perhaps...so far Kasparov has the best numbers ever at 2851, which is still a far piece from 2900.

zxb995511

I'm not convinced Anand is so great even as WC. He has never been in a discussion about best player ever and even some of his lesser contemporaries overshadow even his greatest achievements. On that note I don't think anyone will get a higher rating than Kasparov in a long and rating inflated time. If it does happen it will be Carlsen or maybe we shall see Kramnik have a rebirth who knows but I'm not expecting great things from Anand...

Taichung
Ziryab wrote:

If an event in the US is strong enough to attact grandmasters, it will be rated by FIDE. USCF ratings are for weaker players.


Ridiculous statement!!

NNaa33

lol

NNaa33

i don't know what you mean by cheaters