Tester needed for new version of chess: 4 corners

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Mako_Cat

if you have questions, comments, or want to play a game with me, go to the thread named 

4 corners chess questions and/or comments

I was thinking of the crazyhouse version of chess when I thought of this. The rules are pretty simple. It is like normal chess, but the point of the game is to have one of your pieces on each corner of the board. If this is done, you win. The King is a dispinsible piece, so if he is captured the game goes on. He still moves like a normal king though. To test this game, I would like to play someone in this version. If you want to play, make a post along with your first move. In a while, I will post my move. We will make about 1 move a day. Also, after every move, I will post a picture of the game so far. First person to reply to this gets to be the tester, and first person to ever play a game of 4 corners chess. If you have any questions about the game, just ask. (If someone has already invented this version of chess, I am sorry for claiming it to be my idea first. 

McGoohan

Can we take the king, if he is captured?

Mako_Cat

I don't quite understand your question, but if the king is "check mated" he can be captured, and the game continues. The only way to win is too get a piece on all four corners. If you think that check mate should be possible (the way to win is to check mate the opposing king, or get a piece on eachis corner) let me know, and I might change the rules. If this doesn't answer your question, please rephrase it.

evert823

What if you capture all your opponent's pieces without occupying all four corners?

evert823

A scenario could be that white has one bishop left, positioned on a long diagonal guarding two corners. Black can never get two pieces in those corners, but if black takes the white bishop then white cannot play anymore.

Mako_Cat
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Mako_Cat

If a player gets under four pieces, then he automatically loses. (Unless you think that it should be a draw. Say something about it if you think it should be.)

Mako_Cat

Or another thought is that if a player reaches four pieces, none of his/her pieces can be captured. (50 moves without a capture is a tie if both players reach four pieces)

Mako_Cat

Comment on the best of the three ideaseparate  (once this rule is made, I will make an official set of rules)

1. Loses if a player reaches less than 4 pieces

2. Tie ifor a player reaches leso than 4 pieces 

3. If a player reaches 4 pieces, none of the pieces can be captured.

vickalan
Except for the rules you already said, I think you should keep all the rules of chess the same. Every piece in chess can eventually get into a corner, except the pawn. If a pawn gets into a corner, it means he crossed the board and is promoted (like into a queen).
So the weakest pieces you can win with are: knight, knight, bishop, and king. That's just about the same as it takes to win in normal chess, so this chess variant might work. But evertVB is right, there could be many ways neither side can win (a draw).
 
If one player has less then 4 pieces, the other player has to keep trying to win. If he can't get 4 pieces in the 4 corners within 50 moves then the game is a draw. So you don't need any more rules.
 
NoisyEcho: Are you able to make picures of this game after each move? Since the king is not royal can you replace him with another piece, like a guard? (the piece here):
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This piece moves the same as a king, but it isn't royal - he can be captured.
If you can do that then I would like to be a tester for this game.happy.png
McGoohan
NoisyEcho hat geschrieben:

I don't quite understand your question, but if the king is "check mated" he can be captured, and the game continues. The only way to win is too get a piece on all four corners. If you think that check mate should be possible (the way to win is to check mate the opposing king, or get a piece on eachis corner) let me know, and I might change the rules. If this doesn't answer your question, please rephrase it.

My question was: if the king is "checkmated", can you take the king in another move and remove the king from the chessboard? Because if the king is just like a "normal" chess figure, you should be able to take him and remove him from the chessboard.

LXIVC

Yes. the king isn't special at all, so there really is no "check" anymore. He may be captured freely, just like any other piece. Castling should probably not be allowed, since it exist only to protect the king.

Mako_Cat

Macgoohan: yes

 

Vickalan: Okay. I will make a non-king piece. Soon I will make the set of rules, post them, and we can play the game. 

Mako_Cat

I will postry the rules in about 2-3 hours if you are reading this before I post them. We will start the game tommorow. (January 12)

vickalan

OK, great! I do agree with LXIVC there should be no castling since that is a royal move only for a king, and our king is not royal.wink.png But I will wait for your final rules.happy.png

xman720

I totally think it should be a draw. If a player gets under four pieces, all he can hope to do is draw,

 

Also, if a player loses all his pieces but the opponent does not have all four corners occupied, that should be a draw too. So if a player can make a fortress position where his opponent would have to capture his piece to occupy all four corners, then it's a draw.

vickalan
xman720 wrote:

I totally think it should be a draw. If a player gets under four pieces, all he can hope to do is draw,

If a player gets under four piece he can hope for a draw, but he can also lose.

In normal chess if a player has two knights and a king against a king, neither player can get a win for sure - so is a draw also. So both games have the possibility of a draw.

Mako_Cat

                         Rules

1. The game is played with the same rules as chess, except with a few exceptions:

a: the king can be captured. He will still move like a normal king, and goes by the name king

b: the way to win, is to get one piece on each of the four corners. When a piece is on a corner, it can be captured by the opponent, which then owns control of the corner

c: if a player has less than four pieces, the game goes on for 50 more moves, and if at the end of these 50 moves, the opponent has not won, the game is a draw

d: if  player gets down to one piece, it cannot be captured, unless doing so will win the game on the move of the capture

e: casting is not permitted

f: if a pawn makes it to the back rank, it may turn into a king

 

2. If any rules are not stated, they remain the same as normal chess

Mako_Cat

Sorry ViCalan about having a King. Your picture of the guard was not there, plus I wouldn't know how to add him to the display board even if it was.

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