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sgt_pepper

Have any of you tried playing chess where you can have 2 or even 3 turns in a row. I think that it might best to have white's first turn only have 1 move, and then each player gets 2 moves each turn.

 

I'd like to hear your thoughts.

westcoastchess

I know of a chess form where theres NO TURNS!!!  (too crazy for me)

yeah what youre explaining happens sometimes where one player is much stronger and the weak one is white and starts with 2 moves, but thats it.I prefer pawn-odds games for rating mismatches

contrapunctus
westcoastchess wrote:

I know of a chess form where theres NO TURNS!!!  (too crazy for me)

yeah what youre explaining happens sometimes where one player is much stronger and the weak one is white and starts with 2 moves, but thats it.I prefer pawn-odds games for rating mismatches


No, what he means is similar to snowball chess, where the number of moves grows each turn by 1 thus exponentially increasing the chance of a mating attack.

modernchess

What? I think he refers to the set 2 moves per turn variation. However, snowball chess is very fun. Smile

EternalChess

OMFG i played this before..

its very hard!!!

And 3 moves is just impossible, in 2 turns the queesn are gone because of the bishops.

leightonnicholls

Yeah i've heard of a chess game (its not part of real chess) Its called monster chess or something where you can move two moves  but you only have a king and 3 pawns and the other player haves the normal chess army the goal is to checkmate the other players king.

sgt_pepper

no, I'm not talking snowball, just talking about makings two moves before it's you opponnets turn, and your opponnet also gets to make two moves. Make sense? I was just saying it should work like a draft where the white gets one move, then black get two, then white gets two, then black gets two, then white gets two, the black gets two.

It makes for a very offensive game, which means you always have to be thinking defencivly on each turn, not just every once and a while.

 

Snowball chess sounds interesting.

jamessaul

i gotta say this sounds kinda cool. If nothing else when i look at a postiton i think through i like that without the oppostion mving so it'd be super cool to play that. BUt other that the extra moves is everything else the same?

electricpawn

Sounds like an interesting chess variant, maybe increase the chances for complex combinations. Snowball too.

sgt_pepper
jamessaul wrote:

i gotta say this sounds kinda cool. If nothing else when i look at a postiton i think through i like that without the oppostion mving so it'd be super cool to play that. BUt other that the extra moves is everything else the same?


Yep, everything else is the same. Your important peices have to always be 2 moves away from being taken. If you not careful a bishop could take your queen and then safely retreat.

It makes checkmate incredibly easy, because if check happens on the persons first of his two moves, he wins, so your king has to be two moves away even from being checked at all times. Defence is very important in this because of the offencive advantage.

tarikhk

how do checks work?

sgt_pepper
KageLord wrote:

Sounds like progressive chess (which I guess is also called snowball chess), except only 2 moves per turn. However, if the rules are like progressive in other respects, that means check ends a series. Meaning, for example, I can't do Qe2+ then Qxe8#. Also, in progressive chess at least, you are not allowed to move the same piece more than once in a series. So, for example, I can't attack a queen with a bishop, then take it. I have to attack it, wait for my opponent's two moves, then do what I can after that.


hmmmm, interesting, very interesting.

Archerknight

Scotch chess I believe its called is when white has 1 move and then black has 2 moves and then white has 3 etc... The chain brakes after a check and a check also ends your go.

 

Of course, 1.e3 threatens 2.Bc4 - Qh5 - Qxf7#

ItalianGame-inactive

NO! Stick with the regular chess!

ichabod801

I think the OP is talking about Marseillais Chess (named after the city where is was invented some time around WWI), where each player gets two moves. In that version you can move the same piece twice, or two different pieces, but if you check on the first move you don't get the second move (and you must relieve any check as your first move). Then there is Balanced Marseillais Chess, where white only gets one move on their first move. There's also Double Move Chess, where there is no mate (whoever takes the king wins).

I thought I'd read somewhere that Alekhine grew up playing Marseillais Chess, and thought that was normal chess, but I can't find that reference right now.

Progressive Chess (I think what people are calling Snowball) is when white gets one move, black gets two, white gets three, and so on. There are several variants of that, notably Italian, English, and Scottish versions.

sgt_pepper
ichabod801 wrote:

I think the OP is talking about Marseillais Chess (named after the city where is was invented some time around WWI), where each player gets two moves. In that version you can move the same piece twice, or two different pieces, but if you check on the first move you don't get the second move (and you must relieve any check as your first move). Then there is Balanced Marseillais Chess, where white only gets one move on their first move. There's also Double Move Chess, where there is no mate (whoever takes the king wins).

I thought I'd read somewhere that Alekhine grew up playing Marseillais Chess, and thought that was normal chess, but I can't find that reference right now.

Progressive Chess (I think what people are calling Snowball) is when white gets one move, black gets two, white gets three, and so on. There are several variants of that, notably Italian, English, and Scottish versions.


That has got to be the most helpful response I have ever gotten over the internet. I'll give you 100,000 punk rock points, and the metal mario powerup.

Balanced Marseillais Chess is the name of the game I thought I thought up up.

ichabod801

If you're into chess variants, check out http://www.chessvariants.com/, that's where I got all of my information.

ShadowconGaming

You should try Hit and Run Chess, aka Pirate Chess.

ShadowconGaming

https://www.reddit.com/r/chessvariants/comments/kjig64/pirate_chess_aka_runechess_aka_hit_and_run_chess/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

shogi

I enjoy Double-Move Chess and the like.  It is interesting how different the rules can be for checking the king across variants like Progressive and Double-Move Chess.  If you want to play, send me an invite using one of the links below:

https://greenchess.net/game.php?v=double-move

https://greenchess.net/game.php?v=double-move-pawns

https://greenchess.net/game.php?v=monster