AI vs AI

Hello everyone,

I would like to see two AI play together but with opening i choose. Does something like this exist ? Maybe an app or a website ? I don't think chess.com has this option. 

Best regards. 

Yes ,I think there's a way but I'm really not sure people like gothamchess have repaired bore up against each other before

But you might have to do that in two separate tabs @Historychess38(reply to #1)

Yes you troll the trolls

Then watch them call you a "troll " lol

I'll give you an example

Look at @dasamething for example

"Person of Interest" has ai fighting using human agents.

Unless an AI has a specific chess programm implemented for the purpose of playing chess, the so called "intelligence" of AI doesn't not help them in playing (better, good...) chess, if any chess at all.

For one thing, that would be obvious to a human, the AI needs to learn the rules of chess (and it's rather clear that teaching an AI the rules of chess is a big challenge alone if you try to do it by "talking" to them instead of giving them code), then will perform poorly - if succesfull in learning the rules - in playing good chess, for it won't benefit hash tables and opening books, then endgames books plus various evaluation tools (that helps chess softwares in being strong and efficient), and will be doomed to bump into the "horizon effect" that kills any software when playing in limited time (chess clock) with brute force calculations..

Anyhow, it would be a good thing that the general public realizes once and for all, that what is sold to them as "Artificial Intelligence" is a thing first of all designed to pass the test of Turing, and that is, to fool some average and unaware person into making them believe they are talking to an other human being.

I could go on for pages about how these things are made, their limitations and so on, but, instead, I'll advise you to watch a video about it on Youtube, it should do the trick.

All of that is lightyears from anything like chess or actual intelligence.

Example:

Analysis

Yes, it's lightyears from actual intelligence hence the name ARTIFICIAL intelligence. Chess engines ARE AI whether you like it or not.

Nope, natural is the opposite of artificial, not actual. And you like it or not, chess engines are... Well, ENGINES, like the one in a car. An engine can perform what it's meant to perform, not cook an egg and even less THINK.

Artificial means it's manmade, it doesn't mean it's fake or some lesser version. Manmade things are sometimes equal or even superior to their natural counterparts. In the case of the AI, it's not it. It's not an intelligence at all. It's a database searcher for the best part of it.

The "AI" debate is interesting, but I believe the OP was simply asking about having two engines play against each other, from an established starting position.

I know you can do this with "Lucas Chess" (a free chess GUI software), as I do it from time to time. (You just create a "Tournament" between different engines, setting them to play against each other. You can then choose the time controls, and you can also set the "Initial Position" that the engines start from.)

Though I'm sure you can do this with other chess apps, as well.

It's not a debate man, I'm telling factual truths.

Would it be a debate, the debate should have for starting point a common definition of what we mean by "intelligence". But here is the funny thing: an AI is not any intelligence, no matter how you define it.

The only places where you may "feel" (lol) otherwise, are science fiction movies and sensational journalism aiming at increasing the audience through cheap thrills. It doesn't sell, the dull truth that machines are just machines, as in, not thinking at all. Ever.

Skibidi

I just saw the answers, thank you all. I didn't think I will open a debate about AI status. Was not what i was looking for. I will search again.