dropping rating on purpose

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Roxus_Maximus

I just played two games against a player that had 1600+ score about a week ago, with LOTS of games under his belt, and is dropping down below 1250 now. Almost all of his recent games have ended in 5 to 10 moves with him resigning. I believe he is trying to drop his score before entering the next tournament. Which is rediculously lame, and unsporting.

  Anything I can do other then think bad things about him?

ADK

You can block him to prevent any further interactions...

ADK

immortalgamer

This is nothing new to online chess.  Usually players do this to play higher rated players and beat them and make them feel like they lost to a 1200.  Some sort of psychological torture they think they are inflicting. 

TheGrobe

It's sandbagging, and I think should be considered a form of cheating if it is not already -- try the "Report Abuse" link.

Goatnotsheep

It could be because he wants to lower the amount of games hes playing. How else would someone cut down on the amount of games fast?

TheGrobe

Yes, the problem with detecting sandbagging is that there are other reasons a player might exhibit similar behaviour, as you've suggested.  The key is in the intent which likely makes it very hard to police -- if the player entered a tournament with a rating range shortly after dropping under the range's ceiling, however, I do think you've probably got strong enough evidence to draw a conclusion about their intent.

As I said above, use the Report Abuse link and let the Chess.com staff decide what course of action to take if any.

Matthew-Ryans

In My Book That Rates About The Same As Using Chess Engines During Play

joseph12

Well in my book it's none of your business. Why are you concerned about another's actions anyway? If he wants his rating lower that is his prerogative. 

Beelzebub666

Maybe he had a stroke, or developed a crack habit.

AMcHarg

It's pretty irrelevant in my opinion, if he wins the tournament then so what?  He could just have closed his account and opened a new one anyway which would start his rating at 1200.  A tournament win if he lowers his rating will not be aww-inspiring to those who look at his record because he will have lost so many games.

Apart from the above, it's too hard to prove someone's motive anyway and it's unfair to make an 'educated assumption', just in case you're wrong.  Maybe he just thought the games that he resigned from were actually lost, and prove that he didn't think otherwise.

LasUnicorn

Maybe he was playing with a computer, to get that rating and now he does have  a computer to help him  so he is losing game   Hard to tell unless you can catch him  at it and then report it to chess >com and they will check him out, or maybe decided to play a fair game with out some help and he can not do it  it hard to say

sstteevveenn
Matthew-Ryans wrote:

In My Book That Rates About The Same As Using Chess Engines During Play


This Is Painful For Me To Read.  Yell

CATLOCK

a bit sick mr Beelzebud666 but u sort of have a point,maybe he died and his games are being played by his widow who thinks she is on a bingo site? 

Dexter_Morgan

Intentionally dropping one's rating by purposely resigning a massive amount of games is against the rules at most correspondence chess sites, I'd find it hard to believe that it wouldn't be considered cheating here as well.  Report Abuse and let the chess.com staff look into it and sort it out.

TheGrobe

It's relevant because it's not fair to the other participants in the tournament.  It completely undermines the reason for having rating ranges in the first place.

As for your other suggestion, that he could start a new account to achieve the same result, I think that this is exactly the rationale behind having a "minimum games played" parameter on tournaments and games -- in this case so that the tournament director can have some assurance that the ratings are reflective of actual skill level.

joseph12

who is abusing who here? is this person stalking your page a week after the match?

Dexter_Morgan
joseph12 wrote:

who is abusing who here? is this person stalking your page a week after the match?


cheating = abuse

Yea no one got molested or stalked though so I guess there are different levels of abuse in this world eh?.  Thanks for pointing that out!

Theempiremaker

Just play good chess

stanhope13

i,ve lost on purpose, why? because i got lucky, very lucky, with some of my early games, and my rating become ridiculously high.i did it to get back to reality.

chrish
CATLOCK wrote:

a bit sick mr Beelzebud666 but u sort of have a point,maybe he died and his games are being played by his widow who thinks she is on a bingo site? 


best joke on a forum yet IMHO