I'm white, U have 2:20 mins left on the clock. I've taken all his pieces. I have a Queen and a Rook and 4 pawns, one I could get to upgrade in 3 moves? He's dodging allover the board, and it pops up 'Stalemate'? This is an absolute Joke! What's the 10 minutes for if I spend 7 of them to get in such a powerful winning position to be told it's a Stalemate? How the hell is this a Stalemate? Anyone? I'm quite upset about this, I'd worked hard to remove all his pieces and had him on the run! It should be a resignation, or I win in a couple more moves? Anyome?
How is this a Stalemate?


Black has no legal moves and is not in check. This is draw by stalemate, these are the rules.

Wow, so you cannot corner the king unless he's in check. I think it's a ridiculous outcome in this scenario, but ok, rules are rules. So because he is not in check and cannot move it's declared a stalemate. You can play for this, be getting absolutely smashed as shown and get lucky, he got lucky because I did not know about this particular version of stalemate. It won't be happening again! Thanks for letting me know.

Yes, there is a lot of logic to the stalemate rule because outside of scenarios like this where one player is winning easily but allows it for a draw it affects the play in many endgames. Basically it enriches the game. If you are winning easily like this there are a couple of things you can do to avoid it completely - in this game you captured everything before going after the king when you could have left his last 2 pawns on the board so he would always have a move. The other way is just to always be giving check to the king.

Thats why, you should never forfeit a game even if you have only a king and you can't win .... try to make it in a stalemate.

Hey Wolfy, What do you mean, "It won't be happening again?" You stalemated a guy on Jan. 31 in 57 moves and you also stalemated a guy on Jan. 29 in 72 moves. Surely you would have learnt from the first 2 times.

He out smarted you with the stalemate tactic. I do say very rarely done these days, most people would of resigned before this point. But he luckily got a draw.

Thanks for the comments, I have achieved a stalemate ^ (two in fact), but its not much fun the other way round!! LOL

Once players are around 850+, they usually never stalemate because they've learned from past mistakes.

I agree this has happened to me several times. The King in question must be a Man U fan because WolfeJam has made sure he’s walking alone.

I like the stalemate rule. Players who have a large material superiority don't deserve to win if they don't know how to checkmate efficiently. As a former assistant coach at scholastic tournaments, I saw such unbalanced stalemates often. The other unfortunate common scenario was the TDs having to adjudicate games as a draw-by-repetition (or 50-move rule) when a player with massive material superiority endlessly chased the opponent around without making progress (we had to adjudicate games because most local scholastic tournaments can't afford to buy chess clocks, and the children were not serious enough to have them yet).

Yes, there is a lot of logic to the stalemate rule because outside of scenarios like this where one player is winning easily but allows it for a draw it affects the play in many endgames. especially in beginner games, Basically it enriches the game. If you are winning easily like this there are a couple of things you can do to avoid it completely - in this game you captured everything before going after the king when you could have left his last 2 pawns on the board so he would always have a move. The other way is just to always be giving check to the king.

Thats why, you should never forfeit a game even if you have only a king and you can't win .... try to make it in a stalemate.
yeah those 2ks down 10 seconds and a queen in bullet not resigning are a little sus though

The object of the game is to checkmate your opponent not to take all his pieces, obviously checkmate is easier once you have a material advantage but there comes a point when you stop chasing pieces and go for the win and checkmate. Had you been playing OTB your opponent could have run his clock down to 2 minutes and then claimed a draw because you were making no effort to win by normal (checkmate) means. See below
FIDE Laws of Chess
Artical 5: The completion of the game
5.1a. The game is won by the player who has checkmated his opponent’s king. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing the checkmate position was a legal move.
b. The game is won by the player whose opponent declares he resigns. This immediately ends the game.
5.2a. The game is drawn when the player to move has no legal move and his king is not in check. The game is said to end in ‘stalemate’. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing the stalemate position was legal.
b. The game is drawn when a position has arisen in which neither player can checkmate the opponent’s king with any series of legal moves. The game is said to end in a ‘dead position’. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing the position was legal. (See Article 9.6)
c. The game is drawn upon agreement between the two players during the game. This immediately ends the game. (See Article 9.1)
d. The game may be drawn if any identical position is about to appear or has appeared on the chessboard at least three times. (See Article 9.2)
e. The game may be drawn if each player has made at least the last 50 consecutive moves without the movement of any pawn and without any capture. (See Article 9.3)
Article 10: Quickplay Finish
10.1 A ‘quickplay finish’ is the phase of a game when all the (remaining) moves must be made in a limited time.
10.2 If the player, having the move, has less than two minutes left on his clock, he may claim a draw before his flag falls. He shall summon the arbiter and may stop the clocks. (See Article 6.12.b)
a. If the arbiter agrees the opponent is making no effort to win the game by normal means, or that it is not possible to win by normal means, then he shall declare the game drawn. Otherwise he shall postpone his decision or reject the claim.
b. If the arbiter postpones his decision, the opponent may be awarded two extra minutes and the game shall continue, if possible in the presence of an arbiter. The arbiter shall declare the final result later in the game or as soon as possible after a flag has fallen. He shall declare the game drawn if he agrees that the final position cannot be won by normal means, or that the opponent was not making sufficient attempts to win by normal means.
c. If the arbiter has rejected the claim, the opponent shall be awarded two extra minutes time.
d. The decision of the arbiter shall be final relating to (a), (b) and (c).
I agree this has happened to me several times. The King in question must be a Man U fan because WolfeJam has made sure he’s walking alone.
This made my day lol