It's mostly a long string of lucky guesses.
Is chess mostly about intelligence?
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is intelligence and good memory the same? If you never saw a tactical pattern and come up with the right answer you are very intelligent - same with iq tests some people train them for assesment centers and get up to +50, sooo....
TheOldReb wrote:
Ofcourse chess has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence ! Its all about physical dexterity, endurance, strength and flexibility ! Its also very important how long one can hold their breath under 30 feet of water with a crowd of people watching ! Oh , and as the great champion Karpov has discovered, not washing one's hair for long periods also helps. Another plus is to have powerful legs so that you might win any kicking contest under the table during the game, as occured in a game between Korchnoi and Petrosian....
lol
You gotta be born with it my homies
Jul 22, 2018
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chesslearner1000 wrote:
I always thought I was smart but chess has really anhilated me. I rarely ever win games. I took an aptitude test and I scored in the 80th percentile, which means my IQ is around a 113, which is above average. I'm always pretty good at math. I dont see why I'm bad at chess. I used to play seldomly but now I play often. I started to play often in september and I'm still not good. Its been 3 months of repetitive play and I'm still not good. Can you give me advice and tell me your experiences with chess?
Just like math, chess is learned. It takes time. There are no shortcuts.
One thing more, you ask a question but did not read the answers. Because in your profile, you joined December 21, 2009 but you last logged in on December 20, 2009. It is just saying that you joined today but you last logged in yesterday.
Jul 23, 2018
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It’s a skill, like being good at playing a musical instrument. Both require practice and inherent talent.
vbhargava07 wrote:
My Iq is 120-160 which is above average
Mine is 10-300.
mine is like room temperature and varies with it
Jul 24, 2018
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macer75 wrote:
vbhargava07 wrote:
My Iq is 120-160 which is above average
Mine is 10-300.
vh
vh- very hot = very intelligent yes
Jul 10, 2019
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exigentsky wrote:
thesexyknight wrote:
You don't have to be a genius to epic pwn at chess. Kasparov's iq was around 135 (although his memory was off the charts). But of course it helps.
Do not confuse IQ with intelligence. Richard Feynman was in the 120s and is considered a genius. The same applies to James Watson. IQ is supposed to correlate with the aspects of intelligence most involved in academic achievement, not to measure intelligence directly. It's a predictive tool. It's designed to discover cognitive deficits so that they may be corrected, not to determine high brilliance. Once someone has already established himself as a genius, an IQ test is fairly useless. It's a little like being a lawyer for two decades and then deciding to take a career aptitude test.
Moreover, multiple different IQ tests (professionally administered not the silly online ones) are required for a baseline and they need to be normed similarly. For example, a 130 on the Cattell is not the same as a 130 on the Stanford-Binet or WAIS. A person's culture and background can also muddy matters for all but a few tests like the Raven's Progressive Matrixes. It's complicated to make sense of what an IQ score actually means even within its limited usefulness.
Richard Feynman actually scored 125 on an IQ test, though the test is strongly believed to have been primarily verbal-based. As for James Watson, deoxyribonucleic acid scientist, he has lost honorary titles belonging to him, due to racist remarks. Controversy has risen.
Jul 10, 2019
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chesslearner1000 wrote:
I always thought I was smart but chess has really anhilated me. I rarely ever win games. I took an aptitude test and I scored in the 80th percentile, which means my IQ is around a 113, which is above average. I'm always pretty good at math. I dont see why I'm bad at chess. I used to play seldomly but now I play often. I started to play often in september and I'm still not good. Its been 3 months of repetitive play and I'm still not good. Can you give me advice and tell me your experiences with chess?
The answer is simple.
"How Chess Is Played" was learned incorrectly. 1st impressions, 1st leanings all are crucial for long term success. If after several months and no progress is seen or felt, then obviously the currently held knowledge for the game is insufficient to make for progress.
The solution is to start over, abandon all past conceptions, approach the game with clarity and objectivity.
Correcting/adjusting learned behavior, learned behavior that has proven not to reach expectations is never the course. A whole new perspective is demanded.
Jul 10, 2019
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MickeyDeadGuys wrote:
It’s a skill, like being good at playing a musical instrument. Both require practice and inherent talent.
This.
Success at chess indicates an aptitude for chess. Period. It has no direct dependence on general intelligence.
Dec 30, 2022
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kyska00 wrote:
I read somewhere that IQ isn't the prime factor in chess excellence. There was a study that found that high rated players had all had a high ability in visio-spacial relationships. the can see and recognize patterns. Chess is a game of patterns, mating nets,combinations, etc. the ability to see and recognize a pattern and how it can be used obviously would be of immense help to a chessplayer.
Well that's true but actually most of those ability is 25-33% of the Welscher-test and if I'm not mistaken 80-100% of the Mensa IQ test.
Key: BD = Block Design, SI = Similarites, DS = Digit Span, MR = Matrix Reasoning, VC = Vocabulary, AR = Arithmetic, SS = Symbol Search, VP = Visual Puzzles, IN = Information, CD = Coding, LN = Letter-Number Sequencing, FW = Figure Weights, CO = Comprehension, CA = Cancellation, PCm = Picture Completion, BDN = Block Design no time bonus, DSF = Digit Span forward, DSB = Digit Span backwards, DSS = Digit Span sequencing, VCI = Verbal Comprehension Index, PRI = Perceptual Reasoning Index, WMI = Working Memory Index, PSI = Processing Speed Index, FSIQ = Full Scale IQ
Take the data not for granted, their is no sample size and power described in the data, and my university datasearch is expired. 
Optimissed wrote:
It's really very simple. Chess depends on memory, concentration. the ability to study and practice; and on fighting spirit, which is most important.
Intelligence is the ability to solve problems. That's what intelligent tests measure. They also measure pattern recognition, which is a factor in intelligence, and other abilities such as deduction. Complex problems can consist of a mix of such factors. Chess also consists of a series of problems and a well designed intelligence test does measure your ability to solve problems of various types. Chess, admittedly, is a specific type of problem; but it is still very much of the sort of problem which an intelligence test will measure; so, of course your ability to play chess well and your IQ score are bound to be strongly related.
A lot of people give voice to opinions on subjects, often about which they know nothing. Anyone who believes that chess ability and intelligence are unrelated is wrong to believe that. They don't understand the subject area.
I really, really wonder who you're talking to. To the opening poster? They guy who joined chess.com, played 3 games, opened a topic, then left forever 1 day later? And that was 14 years ago.
Think safety. Leery. Of perhaps the most disturbing sneak attacks that one might have if your not cautious of their next move. ‼️‼️‼️❗️🥳🤩🔦
Optimissed wrote:
Basically, chess is mainly about intelligence (ability to work out problems) but also there's a lot of learned stuff in chess, so it's a bit of both. Pattern recognition is a part of basic intelligence but fighting spirit isn't, so that's a third factor.
So someone can be intelligent but it doesn’t mean they are good at chess, because chess ability is a learned skill.
I’m not very good at chess but my pattern recognition is very high.
Optimissed wrote:
It's really very simple. Chess depends on memory, concentration. the ability to study and practice; and on fighting spirit, which is most important.
Intelligence is the ability to solve problems. That's what intelligent tests measure. They also measure pattern recognition, which is a factor in intelligence, and other abilities such as deduction. Complex problems can consist of a mix of such factors. Chess also consists of a series of problems and a well designed intelligence test does measure your ability to solve problems of various types. Chess, admittedly, is a specific type of problem; but it is still very much of the sort of problem which an intelligence test will measure; so, of course your ability to play chess well and your IQ score are bound to be strongly related.
A lot of people give voice to opinions on subjects, often about which they know nothing. Anyone who believes that chess ability and intelligence are unrelated is wrong to believe that. They don't understand the subject area.
I think the most important thing is your third ability, not the fourth.
I think time is the single most important thing in chess. Chess is mostly about time. All the fighting spirit in the world wont make any difference if someone doesn't have the time to study and practice.
Since chess is a game wholly in the realm of the mind, it must require intelligence. However, it's not all-encompassing and probably reflects only a small subset of congitive abilities.