Is it better to Chess.com or Lichess.org?

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LuisPro2008A

Here we are going to talk about your tastes for the 2 platforms.
Which of them is better and why?
- Chess.com
- Lichess.org

justbefair

In before all the in before the lock comments.

Scarbo

#chesscompropaganda

BotvinnikTal

what does #2 and #3 mean?

Wits-end

If given the choice to eat MacD’s or Booger K and starve, I’d go hungry for awhile. 

binomine
LegionarySoldier wrote:

what does #2 and #3 mean?

This topic was banned for a long while, mainly because there is no "discussion" in these kinds of threads, just a bunch of one off comments with no substance. 

However, then a streamer made a reasonable comparison between the two sites and chessdotcom banned them, and everyone made a big stink out of it, so we are free to discuss this topic now, even though it almost always ends the same way, a bunch of spam and garbage. 

LuisPro2008A

Hi

LuisPro2008A

It is best to play chess

LuisPro2008A

And I would greatly appreciate it if you join my Ultimate League club.

LuisPro2008A

https://www.chess.com/club/ultimate-league

Wits-end

I play both. My experiences:

Lichess: harder to get a game, far more abandonments, lag is terrible, moves are “jumpy and jittery”, ratings are misleading (about 500 above CC) to name a few. 
Chess.com: easy to get a game, far fewer abandonments, no lag, site works smoothly 99% of the time, when paired close to my rating the games seem more competitive (even though I’m terrible), met some really nice people.

neatgreatfire

I prefer Chess.com's community, but I always use lichess for studying.

Wolfgangus_Theophilus

Lichess has a couple of key issues (I've got accounts both in Lichess.org & Chess.com). The first one refers to lag compensation. They've developed an unworthy algorithm that, in theory, allows users with poor Internet (99% of the whole Lichess pool), to play fast time control games. The problem comes when lag compensation compensates too much to users with poor Internet, giving away more seconds than desirable. As a direct consequence, as the poorest is your Internet, you've got more chances to win the game. That's terrible. It's a kind of cheat, and Lichess has become the paradise for switch-laggers. The developers do nothing. The second problem is cheating. I know it's not just an issue of Lichess, but they do nothing either. Yes, they close some accounts, but much more ones are free to cheat every day. According to their knowledge, cheating is a kind of fake news on Lichess. So well, your choice, gents. 

Fire

the only thing that lichess has that chess.com doesnt is studies

neatgreatfire
Wolfgangus_Theophilus wrote:

Lichess has a couple of key issues (I've got accounts both in Lichess.org & Chess.com). The first one refers to lag compensation. They've developed an unworthy algorithm that, in theory, allows users with poor Internet (99% of the whole Lichess pool), to play fast time control games. The problem comes when lag compensation compensates too much to users with poor Internet, giving away more seconds than desirable. As a direct consequence, as the poorest is your Internet, you've got more chances to win the game. That's terrible. It's a kind of cheat, and Lichess has become the paradise for switch-laggers. The developers do nothing. The second problem is cheating. I know it's not just an issue of Lichess, but they do nothing either. Yes, they close some accounts, but much more ones are free to cheat every day. According to their knowledge, cheating is a kind of fake news on Lichess. So well, your choice, gents. 

Yes, you would be the resident expert on cheating wouldn't you....

ChessFreak2020

#inb4thelock

Steven-ODonoghue
Wolfgangus_Theophilus wrote:

Lichess has a couple of key issues (I've got accounts both in Lichess.org & Chess.com). The first one refers to lag compensation. They've developed an unworthy algorithm that, in theory, allows users with poor Internet (99% of the whole Lichess pool), to play fast time control games. The problem comes when lag compensation compensates too much to users with poor Internet, giving away more seconds than desirable. As a direct consequence, as the poorest is your Internet, you've got more chances to win the game. That's terrible. It's a kind of cheat, and Lichess has become the paradise for switch-laggers. The developers do nothing. 

This doesn't seem to be the case for me. Since I'm in Australia my ping on lichess is rarely below 300, which gives me a huge disadvantage because premoves consume like ~0.2 seconds off my clock, instead of 0.0

This makes it basically impossible to win a time scramble against any decent player, and for that reason I can only play hyper and ultra on chess.com. It is absolutely unplayable on lichess due to the lag.

WokeMoralist

PlayMagnus, obviously.

Sack_o_Potatoes

Lichess has berserk, and studies, and less lag, but it takes FOREVER to pair most of the time but chess.com has it so it is SUPER easy to get paired which is nice, and there are better club options on chess.com, and there are more forums, so chess.com wins, I only go to lichess for studies, and big arena events

Sack_o_Potatoes
Wolfgangus_Theophilus wrote:

Lichess has a couple of key issues (I've got accounts both in Lichess.org & Chess.com). The first one refers to lag compensation. They've developed an unworthy algorithm that, in theory, allows users with poor Internet (99% of the whole Lichess pool), to play fast time control games. The problem comes when lag compensation compensates too much to users with poor Internet, giving away more seconds than desirable. As a direct consequence, as the poorest is your Internet, you've got more chances to win the game. That's terrible. It's a kind of cheat, and Lichess has become the paradise for switch-laggers. The developers do nothing. The second problem is cheating. I know it's not just an issue of Lichess, but they do nothing either. Yes, they close some accounts, but much more ones are free to cheat every day. According to their knowledge, cheating is a kind of fake news on Lichess. So well, your choice, gents. 

I also agree, so much cheaters on lichess compared to chess.com

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