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nxavar

As most of you must have noticed the "Premove and Speed Chess (Bullet)" thread has been deleted. Long before that the OP, jgl1976, said that he did want to lock the thread, as the thread for some several hundred posts up to that point was mostly about personal attacks and video/image posting than premove discussion. Even longer before that, probably even before the thread was created I suggested in the now deleted "On deleting our threads" thread that it would be better to start deleting offending posts after a certain "tolerance" level than delete the whole thread alltogether.

To summarize, chess.com moderators didn't lock the thread even if they were totally justified to do so and even the OP wanted it, didn't start deleting excessive insulting - spamming posts even though after a certain point it was more than common sense to do so, instead they waited until some arbritary level of awfulness was reached and deleted the whole thread.

How's that for moderation quality?

Cystem_Phailure

What gets altered, locked, or deleted seems to depend most on whether kohai liked her breakfast that day.  Good mood = more tolerance, bad mood = slash and burn.

kco
ReasonableDoubt wrote:

The irony in this is that the only visible future for this thread is down the same road as the one that was deleted.  If you have a problem with chess.com moderation I'd contact them instead of posting in the forums... but they're trying the best they can to keep order in a forum that does everything possible to defy it and doing a relatively good job, so I'd give them an A. 


 +1

kco
Cystem_Phailure wrote:

What gets altered, locked, or deleted seems to depend most on whether kohai liked her breakfast that day.  Good mood = more tolerance, bad mood = slash and burn.


 and pissed her off, you'll get the pitch fork ! 

Cystem_Phailure

No doubt.

kco

and on the other hand she is kind and patience and wouldn't hurt a fly. 

nxavar
ReasonableDoubt wrote:

The irony in this is that the only visible future for this thread is down the same road as the one that was deleted.  If you have a problem with chess.com moderation I'd contact them instead of posting in the forums... but they're trying the best they can to keep order in a forum that does everything possible to defy it and doing a relatively good job, so I'd give them an A. 


 I guess none of the threads were you made posts for which you had to put a serious amount of effort in order to present a proper argument were deleted.

This isn't a protest about chat-room-level forum discussions getting deleted but rather a protest about the deletion of threads that delt with serious matters and probably every effort should be made so that they are preserved.

nxavar
ReasonableDoubt wrote:

"Serious amount of effort in order to present a proper argument"?

"Delt (sic) with serious matter that should be preserved"?

Translation:

I was right, he was wrong.  Now that the topic was deleted I can't show my grandkids that someone was wrong on the internet.

 

 All these threads just eventually get buried anyway, it's really not that big a deal.  With no offense meant, although a lot of these topics are interesting, nothing groundbreaking comes out of internet forums and there's not a particularly good reason to preserve most topics.


 "Nothing groundbraking comes out". Does it have to be groundbreaking in order to be important at least valuable? Don't you think that one might be discouraged to do anything more than post one-liners in the forums if no matter what his contributions would be they would be dealt as insignificant?

Is this how a site promotes quality for its forums?

kohai
Cystem_Phailure wrote:

What gets altered, locked, or deleted seems to depend most on whether kohai liked her breakfast that day.  Good mood = more tolerance, bad mood = slash and burn.


Please don't automatically assume it was me.

artfizz

"Moderation in all things, especially moderation." 
— Ralph Waldo Emerson

nxavar
artfizz wrote:

"Moderation in all things, especially moderation." 
— Ralph Waldo Emerson


 No problem with moderation at all. It's the quality of it that can create frustration.

bigpoison

Good riddance, I say.

I'd much rather see a thread whacked than one locked at the request of a single individual.

I wouldn't want the job of moderator here.  Those that do the job, do a much better job than would I.

Crazychessplaya

As long as we are on quotes:

“Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed”

- Geoffrey Chaucer

nxavar
Crazychessplaya wrote:

As long as we are on quotes:

“Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed”

- Geoffrey Chaucer


 I'd say that if point 1, 3 and 6 are met, point 5 is irrelevant.

Kverneland

That post nxavar is referring to - ive seen it - was the home of one of the most ridiculous trolls Ive ever seen in action. This guy spammed his own thread so hard that it was beyond recognition what his own "arguments" was. Completely unreadable.