To be honest, it hasn't happened yet.
But the idea of it makes me laugh. I'm sure it'd just prove to be an amusing occurence to me.
To be honest, it hasn't happened yet.
But the idea of it makes me laugh. I'm sure it'd just prove to be an amusing occurence to me.
it also happened to me when am winning the game am so far advantage ,when ask me a draw suddenly all my advantage are all gone and went i lose the game ,,maybe some people do that to disturb your mind
after all nothing to lose to ask a draw.but but but .if it happened to you kick them inthere a$$$$$$$$$$$$ hehehehhehhe joke
Chess players as a rule seem to follow the unspoken rule of draw offers, in my experience.
1. Either player may offer a draw when the position is completely even.
2. If one player is defending, and the other player is "trying to make progress", then the defending player should not offer a draw, even if they think they can defend against any "progress ideas".
3. If one player is clearly under pressure to actually _win_ the game (for match reasons or tournament placement/money reasons) then the other player should really only offer a draw when they have a bit of an edge, or the position is really completely even with no hope for play.
one time i was playing a game and i a offered a draw in what i thought was a drawn position, and then he made a critical mistake. After that he resigned and did not accept the draw that is honor. After the game he told me not to offer draws
it also happened to me when am winning the game am so far advantage ,when ask me a draw suddenly all my advantage are all gone and went i lose the game ,,maybe some people do that to disturb your mind
after all nothing to lose to ask a draw.but but but .if it happened to you kick them inthere a$$$$$$$$$$$$ hehehehhehhe joke
There is a pretty well known Chess Axioms stating that 'someone will blunder within 5 moves of a Draw offer' . Call it Magic if you will, I still beleive in it to a large extent, based on spectating and experiences.
But stranger yet, I've personally Won every Postal & Corr. Chess game I ever played where my opponent turned down my Draw offer ?! Perhaps it IS the curse of declining; or maybe that I only offer them rarely, & in close positions, or ones seeming very unclear. Tho there have been a couple endings I can recall that I only expected to hold the game by a single tempo ...then They ended up blundering. So maybe it is the result of their OVERPUSHING or trying to overplay the position. Fischer did that at times, being the Maximist he was.
I've often wondered if they would be better served to take sucha Draw offered, or to play it as they did and go for the most, probably in many other games as well. I guess it depends whether their opponent 'thinks it may Draw', or Knows it will Draw and how to do it. I guess they must Not know it is a Drawn ending, to be able to fall prey to overplaying it?!~
And I suppose it may often go the OTHER direction. I must admit a certain drive and delight in playing to "punish" the opponent who declines a Draw offer in a drawish game. However, it is only in a laid-back, give them some rope to see if the "hang" kind of way. I could see where many might want to Overpunish in that case, so the Draw Offerer be the one to overplay it. It just does not seem to work out that way as often. Which I think may involve a certain obligation felt by the declining player to "show the win then". "Let's see what you've got" type situation. So they take it to the Edge, playing to win. But sometimes Over the Edge . . .
one time i was playing a game and i a offered a draw in what i thought was a drawn position, and then he made a critical mistake. After that he resigned and did not accept the draw that is honor. After the game he told me not to offer draws
KUNGFOODCHEF ... Under Tournament Chess Rules, he actually lost his right to accept your Draw offer just as soon as he moved. (Regardless of whether he had made a better move, or the mistake he actually played.) Making a move is the silent method of declining a Draw Offer.
Another thing to know is ... if your opponent offers YOU a Draw but has not made his move yet in reply to your previous move, then you are entitled to ask him to move before you reply to his Draw Offer. You would keep the right of refusal or acceptance of that Offer until you Decline it by Verbal refusal, or by making your next move on the board.
Just reject!! Why does it say Accept or REJECT? Otherwise it'll be just accept, right? lol. You are not the losers until you click Accept =P. So far, they are. lol
I just feel so ruthless. "I want you to suffer so I can have a bigger number next my name! Suffer I tell you!!"
That happens alot doesn't it? Draw? Refuse with a double exclaim!! I always say, especially when they are in a mate net, "I think it was the resign button you were looking 4." Only accept a draw when it is legit or when u r loooosing;D
I have had several higher rated over-the-board players try offering me a draw in clearly lost positions with time pressure nowhere in sight. Usually I quietly decline, indicating, with a straight face, that I would appreciate learning from their technique. Several moves later, they resign, and neither of us mention the feeble draw offer.
Now I never thought someone would have the pluck to attempt that OTB. Nice way to stay tactful though, "I'd rather play and learn from you..."
I think that when you're down is the only real time you ought to offer a draw. I see no reason to be offended if people offer the draw when they are in a comically bady position--they're just trying to get the best possible result. If you are confident you can win, reject it. But I don't see why it's so upsetting. Have a nice laugh and pat yourself on the back for getting to such a great position, and then mate the guy.
i think it ONLY happens to you...
wah wah wah,
it's a yes or no question, get over it...
funny ::hyena laugh::
I must say I agree with the sentiments of most of the posts here, that a draw offer when horribly down is perhaps rude, but probably not immoral.
I do however have another question to ask. I tend to stay mostly silent throughout my chess games, and rarely say "gg" regardless if it's a win or a loss. Is this considered rude? Should I say "gg" when a game is concluded? Or maybe make sure to say it especially when I lose? Or it is okay to say nothing and just play, or maybe talk only in response to something my opponent says?
Depends on what your goal is (to all the "last resort" people). If your goal is to get better at chess, it's ridiculous. If your goal is to try to swindle the opponent, then sure go ahead.
I had that recently early on in a game. It wasn't a clear victory for me, but I did have the advantage...and did not accept the draw offered.
some 597 rated noob tried to draw me. just cause he cant play. i just declined, he got checkmated and he died badly
When someone offers me a draw and are down a lot (eg their queen) i simply try to win in the most ludicrous fashion possible. typically i will take all their pieces, force their king into the corner and see how many pawns i can promote before my opponnent resigns. The most that i have got is 4.
ive been offered draw with checkmate in one. i immaturely decided to keep promoting pawns and playing until i had one second left and then #. I commonly respond with a "?" and decline the draw. I frequently just ignore the offer though. I already admitted to being immature for drawing out a game, but now i would like to explain my reasoning for doing so: asking for a draw when losing is disrespectful. draw offers are saying we are equal in postition and material why keep playing? therefore asking for a draw when losing, especially in material, could be equated to saying "Im good enough to equalize" sending the message of youre not good enough to beat me even though youre up in material or position. i responded to this disrepect with the disrespect of not trying to win; wasting my opponnents and my time.
this has happened to me on occasion. it might happen more often to me but I rarely have a big lead. recently I was playing a game of live chess and I had a big lead. the opponent offered a draw, of course I refused it, and he immediately resigned. some people.
Had it happen to me yesterday. 1200 rated, clearly a novice was a queen, two rooks, a bishop and two pawns down. They offered the draw but I was optimistic of getting the win. They resigned next move.
I had thought and hoped that this thread would die.
Apparently, too many people are interested in justifying their own rude behavior following someone else's
I don't get what is so difficult to understand.
Seriously, why do people get worked up about something so trivial?
A significant number of the posts here seem like children complaining about other children's behavior.
The greater the population on this site the greater diversity you have regarding opponents and challenges. Work hard to make people feel stupid or unwelcome. I would bet Erik is grateful for you your help.
If you can win, win. Then move on.
How can you cheat your way to a few extra points? Your opponent somehow accidentally clicks to accept the draw, and THEN accidentally clicks to confirm as well?? Two mouse slips one after the other, this seems VERY unlikely. If someone offers you a draw, just politely decline... And if they keep asking- its hardly going to affect you in any way!