Too many Stalling Players - stricter penalty?

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blakewalk

I have recently noticed a wave of stallers, who abandon as soon as they are down a piece or two. Report, block, and hope that the next player is a good sport.

But the frequency is making the Chess.com platform unplayable at lower ratings - I notice that it's especially worse sub 1100 blitz.

Is there some mechanism to further discourage this kind of play?

Orciety
blakewalk wrote:

I have recently noticed a wave of stallers, who abandon as soon as they are down a piece or two. Report, block, and hope that the next player is a good sport.

But the frequency is making the Chess.com platform unplayable at lower ratings - I notice that it's especially worse sub 1100 blitz.

Is there some mechanism to further discourage this kind of play?

Hi, I think you can make a suggestion at the 'help' tab on the bottom left corner of your screen. I think if lots of people request stricter penalties for stalling, chess.com might make i officail or smthn.

Orciety

oops I spelt Oficial wrong

Martin_Stahl
Orciety wrote:
blakewalk wrote:

I have recently noticed a wave of stallers, who abandon as soon as they are down a piece or two. Report, block, and hope that the next player is a good sport.

But the frequency is making the Chess.com platform unplayable at lower ratings - I notice that it's especially worse sub 1100 blitz.

Is there some mechanism to further discourage this kind of play?

Hi, I think you can make a suggestion at the 'help' tab on the bottom left corner of your screen. I think if lots of people request stricter penalties for stalling, chess.com might make i officail or smthn.

 

The site already has a mechanism in place for this: https://support.chess.com/article/627-sportsmanship-policy

loc7777777

Yeah it's pretty bad although I see worse sports in rapid tbh at the 900 level. My question is it really that big of a deal in blitz? I mean the most it could take is 10 minutes right? In rapid yes it's super annoying but who can't wait a few minutes for the win (in blitz)?

loc7777777

That's what I took it to mean too (no moves). 

However, would you tell me about your strategy of stalling? Espescially in the opening how does that work? It sounds really interesting & creative. I would love to know more? Thanks happy.png

harrytipper3
loc7777777 wrote:

That's what I took it to mean too (no moves). 

However, would you tell me about your strategy of stalling? Espescially in the opening how does that work? It sounds really interesting & creative. I would love to know more? Thanks

 

Possibly he uses the French defense exchange, or the Caro Kann. The idea being to bore the opponents into submission. 

Sounds quite effective, as long as you don't send yourself to sleep aswell.  

loc7777777

Hmm...It's interesting however it kinda goes against the 1/3rd principle. 3 stages of the game split into 3rds I don't know who told me that but it's pretty logical, although I'm sure there is a legit debate about which stage requires more thought. Also a stronger player is going to be able to use this intelligently more than someone like me that is just trying to give each stage equal thought bc he is right people play a 15 10 min game & it ends with both having 15 min or more. So they fly through the opening which prob isn't the "worst" thing but then they stay at that pace for the rest of the game.

Terminator-T800

yes make it so when they stall like muppets they loose twice as many points. & give em a flop in the ear drum

Kowarenai

i feel like we should simply get used to it

NikkiLikeChikki

@Martin_Stahl yes, there is a mechanism. No, it doesn't work very well. I've reported dozens and dozens of players for obvious stalling in the last couple of years and have had responses from chess.com that action was taken only 15 times. Furthermore, the action taken was reported to be as little as a warning.  I'm not sure what the criteria are for stalling, but I think that to most they aren't nearly strict enough.

Signal25
blakewalk wrote:

I have recently noticed a wave of stallers, who abandon as soon as they are down a piece or two. Report, block, and hope that the next player is a good sport.

But the frequency is making the Chess.com platform unplayable at lower ratings - I notice that it's especially worse sub 1100 blitz.

Is there some mechanism to further discourage this kind of play?

I agree there should be stricter penalties. I've reported quite a few members for this. It's often a higher rated player who can't cope with being beaten by someone as rubbish as I am; so it's a mix of annoyance and hilarity. 

KevinOSh

I am all for a stricter penalty for abandoning slow games.

It is not so annoying if playing a 10 min game and opponent stalls with less than 5 minutes remaining, however in games of 30 minutes or more when opponent stalls with more than 20 minutes left on the clock it is extremely annoying; you cannot just do something else in case they decide to play a move with a few seconds left on their clock meaning you are the one in danger of losing on time. So you just have to wait and wait and wait. It completely ruins what would otherwise be a good feeling associated with having played well.

Wirefish

Looked at your thread and looked NO further. Yep, stalling is a huge nuisance! Came across it many times and fed up with it.

All for a stricter penalty for stallers. 

Signal25
mi_chiamo_alex wrote:

I have been going to this site for a year and a half now ... every time I reach a certain score (about 1000 points), I start to face a host of strong opponents, who lower my score (making me fall below 900 points) so also the software matches me with opponents with a score consistent with mine (therefore no longer opponents with 1000 points, but 850/900 points), but these are just as strong as the opponents I faced with 1000 points and who demonstrate a superior playing technique compared to the score so low ... I repeat ... not one, two, three strong opponents, but hosts of strong opponents: 30, 40 ... always dragging my score down ... as if this chess program is programmed to get me to 1000 points and then make me rush down each time ... at this point I declare with certainty that this site has a commercial purpose: to induce me to accept the paid chess lessons offered by the site itself ... this pra I believe it is illegal and I hope that the competent authorities will take serious measures to close the site ... people, if you want an honest chess site, report these anomalous events

A serious situation indeed. Have you considered writing to your political representative? Surely this can't be allowed to continue? 

Signal25
Optimissed wrote:
blakewalk wrote:

I have recently noticed a wave of stallers, who abandon as soon as they are down a piece or two. Report, block, and hope that the next player is a good sport.

But the frequency is making the Chess.com platform unplayable at lower ratings - I notice that it's especially worse sub 1100 blitz.

Is there some mechanism to further discourage this kind of play?

Definitely not, because there are a lot of people who disconnect involuntarily, due to internet problems at their end or somewhere else and it definitely would be unfair to further penalise such players. Punishing the innocent as well as the guilty would bring Chess.com into considerable disrepute.

Correct, but repeated behaviour or events of this kind would demonstrate a strong case; especially when the person "stalling " is losing badly. Hence why each report is looked at to determine appropriate action.

Signal25
Optimissed wrote:

Note raging points typo but seems apt therefore allowed to remain/.

Lol. I get your point, but if a member stalls repeatedly when in a losing position; surely that is evidence that it's deliberate. I think we have to give some credit to whoever looks at the reports to know from experience what is a genuine disconnect due to wifi dropping out, and someone pulling the plug or going to make a cuppa.

ShakenChip

This is a problem for me too. Your king is an check, it is your only piece, and currently It has 1 legal move stop waiting 4 minutes. I get being checkmated by somebody with a slightly lower ELO (difference >= 20) than you isn’t fun (at least for you), you shouldn’t be a 7yo about it and force me to wait. It’s not even an effective strategy, I can just open a new window to YouTube or Reddit.

please_can_i_win_a_game

Can't be me. I spend too much time thinking about a move that's no doubt a blunder.