Why do I keep losing against newly created accounts?

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone had some thoughts about this.

I am a ~2150 (peak at 2244) player. I play almost exclusively blitz here, mainly to avoid online cheating. I have learned chess all by myself, and have a nice rating progression curve: Assuming that I no longer progress, to maintain my rating I should have more or less a 50/50 ratio of wins/defeats.

However, when it comes to recent accounts (up to several months) this ratio falls drastically down. 

For example, at the time that I am writing this message, my last 3 games (3 defeats) are:

Created 25/01/2023

Created 23 days ago

Created 15 days ago

Usually, I report these accounts because I suspect them of cheating. However, unless they have a 100% ratio of victory, they do not seem to be considered as cheaters.

This being said, I would not dislike an explanation from chess.com team to this strange fenomenon: if these accounts are honest players, why do not I have an average 50/50 ratio? 

Thank you for helping.

Yes I have a thought. They are better than you, or simply outplayed you in those particular games.

What I am trying to bring out, is that chess.com is facing some real cheating issues. I talked about my personal experience, but this has been bothering me for a long time now.

To provide an other example, yesterday I was watching a stream, the streamer faced some recent accounts. The outcome? 2 games, 100% of defeats:

Created 30 january 2023

Created 18 january 2023

I am not asking if these accounts are cheaters (we all know they are), I would like to have an answer from chess.com on what they plan to do to fight against them, and make the website a fair area for playing chess - as for now these accounts are proliferating.

Cheers

Why would it be locked?

Because someone said ch**t*r

@BoardMonkey, I definitely like your first suggestion! Would be amazing to have this possibility

     Why do you assume that a new account means the person is just starting as a chess player? Perhaps these "cheaters" are just as strong as their ratings indicate. Maybe someone had their account closed for some things they said on these forums and they got a new account. Maybe they played for years on another site but decided chess.com was a better place to play. Maybe they are a kid who has been using a parents account and just got one of their own. Maybe they are experienced players who had previously only played otb and decided to try online play, or were otb players who moved to an area with no live chess activity and tried online play. Maybe they were attracted to this site due to it's recent merger. There are any number of reasons why someone who is already a good player might have a new chess.com account.

     Don't whine about losing a few games of speed chess, inconsistency is common. What prize would you get for having a 2200 rating here rather than 2120?

Cheaters

We don't know that. @mpaetz said it best, so there's no need to repeat the reasons why they might just be strong chess players. The accuracy, average time per move, etc. of all the games you linked do not indicate any foul play. Report them if you're so compelled, and then just move on.

I hate chess

@mpaetz: if you assume that every player at a certain rating range is not cheating, statistics say that if you take any sample of this population, over a huge amount of games, the wins/losses ratio will tend towards the same values - which is why we can suspect a problem with recent accounts. 

     I said no such thing. I just mentioned that your assumption that a new account must be cheating because they play well is totally unfounded. Again, why do you think the players you highlighted were cheating? 

I did not say that all recently created accounts were cheaters. I say that I (or anyone else) should lose some and win some in the same proportion as against any sub-population at the same rating range. Which is definitely not happening, and not only for me. 

Furthermore, cheating in chess is not about cheating at every move (at top level, what do you think would happen if a gm were allowed to use a computer only, let's say, one move per game?).

Then, to answer your question, the clues are a lot, but recognizing computer-patterns play is easy at some point (look at the ridiculous sequence here https://www.chess.com/game/live/72135166289?username=blitzstream that ends up with 28.Kxf2+). Even the streamer reported him and blocked him. The account is still active, and if you go through the games of this guy, you can see this for example this: Stange isn't it? so why the account is still active? because if you use your computer wisely, it becomes very hard to detect. But the statistics don't lie, if all recent accounts were playing fairly, then the ratio win/loss should tend to b equal as against any other subgroup!

What I would like with this post is to catch the eye of a chess.com member/staff to have a proper and honest statement on this issue, so I will stop here for answers, I have detailed enough to underline it...

     Again, you show no basis for your belief in all this "cheating" you say is going on. For example, the three players you point out have a combined 141 wins, 129 losses, and 13 draws in their archives. Hardly an overwhelming amount of victories for people you claim must be cheating.

It seems like kind of understand that I'm not the greatest chess player in the world an average 1000 ELO but I've noticed most of the games that I really get creamed on or by opponents who have played 750 2300 games usually it's 2300 games and I get creamed now I just played a game against an account that all his victories in Blitz with a 950 average ELO is accuracies in his wins are all above 92% accuracy but his  few  and far between losses are in the 40s and 50s percent accuracy to me that's an obvious bot account cheat account whatever you want to call it and it is very bad situation , cheaters  it's very very frustrating sometimes I had a long day today and just wanted to play some cool games and I get stuck with these bad players I get thrown 800-900 players that are just phenomenal Grandmasters✌️

You mean to tell me that people cheat while playing online chess where there's no good anti-cheat measures or repercussions?? That's preposterous, I don't believe you

good point 😂

In the ICCF games, everyone is allowed to use a machine.  As a result, many of the players have an inflated rating. IMO, it's cheating, and I really don't understand what pleasure one can get from using a machine. And you don't really learn much about chess that way. But what can anyone do about it? 

They could already play the game very well...?

Yes they could! But statistically speaking, would be weird knowing at 2200, we are already over the 99,8% percentile of players (around 18,000,000 on the website). Plus you have clear clues, when you are able to fight against 2200-2300 titled players (verified accounts and the only ones to maybe risk something of being called cheaters) and not being able to anticipate moves from a -6 months recent accounts... There is a clear issue that chess.com should take on seriously...