Why does chess.com not have a classical or long time control rating?

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francis20110

It seems ridiculous that both 10 minute games and 1 hour games are put in the time category of rapid. 

Surely there should be a third category for games of 45 minutes or longer? Or do very very few people on chess.com play those?

notmtwain
francis20110 wrote:

It seems ridiculous that both 10 minute games and 1 hour games are put in the time category of rapid. 

Surely there should be a third category for games of 45 minutes or longer? Or do very very few people on chess.com play those?

The change to put 10 minute games in with other rapid games made a fair amount of sense.

It did exacerbate the problem of the wide range of rapid time controls but very few people play very long time (>1 hour per side) control games.

I see that you have only played a couple of one hour per side games. It looks like you mostly play 15 10.  

So overall, I think it was a good move. 

francis20110
notmtwain wrote:
francis20110 wrote:

It seems ridiculous that both 10 minute games and 1 hour games are put in the time category of rapid. 

Surely there should be a third category for games of 45 minutes or longer? Or do very very few people on chess.com play those?

The change to put 10 minute games in with other rapid games made a fair amount of sense.

It did exacerbate the problem of the wide range of rapid time controls but very few people play very long time (>1 hour per side) control games.

I see that you have only played a couple of one hour per side games. It looks like you mostly play 15 10.  

So overall, I think it was a good move. 

 

I'm not necessarily against putting 10 minute games into rapid I just think rapid games have too wide a range. More than anything I am proposing a classical rating be introduced. 

I have played a few 1 hour games and to me they are very different to even 15|10 games. 15|10 can have a fair element of time pressure whereas with 1 hour games I have never found time to be a factor at all, I can quite comfortably ponder about a move for 5 minutes or so. 

On 15|10 games my rapid rating is quite accurate, but on 1 hour games I always seem to have been matched against weaker or impatient opponents, I don't know if I have ever even lost one out of the dozen or so games I have played. 

nklristic

I pretty much play exclusively 1 hour games (with few exceptions here and there). I believe there are substantial number of players who play those, but I am noticing that it is getting somewhat harder to find the opponent now my rating has increased a little bit (blitz is surely dominant as it requires no time at all to play one game). At some moment I might have to be content with 30 minutes games if I get better, but luckily not yet.

That being said, I just hope that my rating would not disappear if they include the new category (which would probably make sense as 10 minute games and 1 hour games are certainly different). 

giant_of_style

I really like the big change 10 minutes to be in rapid rating. I am looking forward of a feature of chess.com classical rating. Standard and Classical should be more nicer on seperating online ratings for slower games. 

sahope

An extra category would be good. A 10 minute game is different to a game with 30 or 60 minutes or more.

2Kd21-0

I think most likely it isn't in high demand so they don't add it its just that simple.

StudentSteve
Just commenting to add my support for a slower time control rating. I played a 90+30 game last night and it doesn’t seem right that this would be rated the same as a 10 minute game.
Vananh2k

     I'm not sure how popular this request is, but a classical rating would help me see the difference of slower games, where time is not very pressuring, vs highly intense blitz games. games over an hour long are just too long to be in the rapid section.

rishabh11great
Vananh2k wrote:

     I'm not sure how popular this request is, but a classical rating would help me see the difference of slower games, where time is not very pressuring, vs highly intense blitz games. games over an hour long are just too long to be in the rapid section.

Yes, that’s what I wanted to say

se4sons

yep, it isn't right. played 30 min and people legit take 1 min for a banal opening move, can't compare this to the 10 min

JamesSutherlandWood

I'd like to show my support for a classical time control, too. Perhaps, it could be 60 minutes or more? 

Moonwarrior_1

10 min is slow for me, I like it because I’m never in trouble for time. However, when facing people who stall the entire game it’s nice to only wait 10 mins instead of 1 hour.

rishabh11great

30 min and above is classical.

rishabh11great
JamesSutherlandWood wrote:

I'd like to show my support for a classical time control, too. Perhaps, it could be 60 minutes or more? 

Hi, turns out that we have already played a game on chess.com, but it was bullet.

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/5679095985

 

Micahschach
francis20110 wrote:

It seems ridiculous that both 10 minute games and 1 hour games are put in the time category of rapid. 

Surely there should be a third category for games of 45 minutes or longer? Or do very very few people on chess.com play those?

perhaps yes because mostly people play blitz on chess.com because when you click to play blitz you get paired right away but if i play 15|10 I need to wait fo for a few seconds.

Micahschach
Micahschach wrote:
francis20110 wrote:

It seems ridiculous that both 10 minute games and 1 hour games are put in the time category of rapid. 

Surely there should be a third category for games of 45 minutes or longer? Or do very very few people on chess.com play those?

perhaps yes because mostly people play blitz on chess.com because when you click to play blitz you get paired right away but if i play 15|10 I need to wait fo for a few seconds.

so actually i think very less people play classical so the rating is put together

Pickler_MZ

Perhaps if they made a longer time category more people would be encouraged to play it.  

 

Bruno5979

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I quite agree with you.

But I think that the site wants or must respect the FIDE standards in terms of cadences.

I admit that I find it difficult to understand why the 10 'and the 5 + 5 are no longer put together. There is so little difference as the number of moves increases.

So I suppose that classic would be reserved for very long 40 / 2h30 style games. we are not far from it with 60 'or 45/45.

on the other hand I had heard of semi-fast games at a distant time. we could therefore call them semi-rapid or semi-classic.

For me, the Rapid category is too wide.
I mainly played 10 'in Rapid where I lost on time (60% of my defeats were on time !!!) and I was shooting at 1050/1100.
On 15/11 I definitively gave up the 10 'to gradually come to 100% of 30' and I went to 1400 so not at all the same level while my opponents also have 3 times more time.

 

Daily games are a good alternative to very long games in direct.  it's difficult to have 5 hours and more available time.  I spend sometimes one minute or less but sometimes 5/10 minutes for one move.

Micahschach
Pickler_MZ wrote:

Perhaps if they made a longer time category more people would be encouraged to play it.  

 

yeah

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